From: Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>
To: paulmck@kernel.org
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rushikesh.s.kadam@intel.com,
urezki@gmail.com, neeraj.iitr10@gmail.com, frederic@kernel.org,
rostedt@goodmis.org, rcu@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 resend 0/6] Implement call_rcu_lazy() and miscellaneous fixes
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2022 23:22:13 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <07976e09-214d-0d1b-6803-23754a9f3d8a@joelfernandes.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220811025152.GW2125313@paulmck-ThinkPad-P17-Gen-1>
On 8/10/2022 10:51 PM, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 10, 2022 at 10:31:56PM -0400, Joel Fernandes wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 8/10/2022 10:23 PM, Joel Fernandes wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/8/2022 11:45 PM, Joel Fernandes (Google) wrote:
>>>> Just a refresh of v3 with one additional debug patch. v3's cover letter is here:
>>>> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20220713213237.1596225-1-joel@joelfernandes.org/
>>>>
>>>> I just started working on this again while I have some time during paternity
>>>> leave ;-) So I thought I'll just send it out again. No other changes other
>>>> than that 1 debug patch I added on the top.
>>>>
>>>> Next I am going to go refine the power results as mentioned in Paul's comments
>>>> on the last cover letter.
>>>
>>> Side note: Here is another big selling point for call_rcu_lazy().
>>> Instead of _lazy(), if you just increased jiffies_till_first_fqs, and
>>> slowed *all* call_rcu() down to achieve the same effect, that would
>>> affect percpu refcounters switching to atomic-mode, for example.
>>>
>>> They switch to atomic mode by calling __percpu_ref_switch_mode() which
>>> is called by percpu_ref_switch_to_atomic_sync().>
>>> This will slow this call down for the full lazy duration which will slow
>>> down suspend in blk_pre_runtime_suspend().
>>
>> Correction while I am going on the record (got to be careful these
>> days). It *might* slow down RCU for the full lazy duration, unless of
>> course a fly-by rescue call_rcu() comes in.
>
> Just unload a module, which if I remember correctly invokes rcu_barrier().
> Lots of rescue callbacks. ;-)
Haha. Yes I suppose the per-cpu atomic switch paths can also invoke
rcu_barrier() but I suspect somebody might complain about IPIs :-P
Thanks,
- Joel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-08-11 3:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-08-09 3:45 Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-08-09 3:45 ` [PATCH v3 resend 1/6] rcu: Introduce call_rcu_lazy() API implementation Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-08-09 3:45 ` [PATCH v3 resend 2/6] rcu: shrinker for lazy rcu Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-08-09 3:45 ` [PATCH v3 resend 3/6] rcuscale: Add laziness and kfree tests Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-08-09 3:45 ` [PATCH v3 resend 4/6] fs: Move call_rcu() to call_rcu_lazy() in some paths Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-08-18 17:22 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-08-18 17:23 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-08-18 23:05 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-08-19 1:21 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-08-19 1:29 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-08-19 2:35 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-08-19 2:45 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-08-19 16:30 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-08-19 17:12 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-08-19 18:14 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-08-19 18:17 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-08-19 18:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-08-19 18:29 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-08-19 19:40 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-08-19 19:58 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-08-19 20:13 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-08-09 3:45 ` [PATCH v3 resend 5/6] rcutorture: Add test code for call_rcu_lazy() Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-08-09 3:45 ` [PATCH v3 resend 6/6] debug: Toggle lazy at runtime and change flush jiffies Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-08-11 2:23 ` [PATCH v3 resend 0/6] Implement call_rcu_lazy() and miscellaneous fixes Joel Fernandes
2022-08-11 2:31 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-08-11 2:51 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-08-11 3:22 ` Joel Fernandes [this message]
2022-08-11 3:46 ` Paul E. McKenney
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