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From: Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@oracle.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@redhat.com,
	hpa@zytor.com
Subject: Re: [v1 0/9] Early boot time stamps for x86
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2017 10:39:10 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0a628969-e4f6-a463-04e5-889e7b423602@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1703231146060.3982@nanos>

Hi Thomas,

Thank you very much for looking at this patchset. Comments below:

On 03/23/2017 06:56 AM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Mar 2017, Pasha Tatashin wrote:
>> Yes, I am certain it is 0 or  near 0 on reset on this machine. Because, I
>
> Emphasis on "this machine'
>
> It's not guaranteed especially not on reboot and not with creative BIOSes
> fiddling with the TSC_ADJUST value.
>
>  - It CANNOT be used to measure BIOS boot time reliably

Yes, understood, I will remove comment about BIOS time from the next 
cover letter.

However, I think the pr_info() with offset is still useful at least for 
those whose BIOS does not alter TSC_ADJUST, also it is consisten with 
every other clocksource in linux where offset is printed in pr_info().

 From Intel PRM 2016/12:
The time-stamp counter (as implemented in the P6 family, Pentium, 
Pentium M, Pentium 4, Intel Xeon, Intel Core Solo and Intel Core Duo 
processors and later processors) is a 64-bit counter that is set to 0 
following a RESET of the processor

Since early boot time stamps feature target processors that are later 
than "Pentium 4" because invariant TSC flag is checked, it is safe to 
assume that offset is going to be valid on power-on if TSC_ADJUST  was 
not altered

>
>  - If BIOS wreckaged TSC_ADJUST, then your whole time stamping goes out the
>    window once the kernel sanitized it.

I will add a condition to tsc_early_init() to check for TSC_ADJUST if it 
is not 0, disable early TSC feature. Does this sound OK?

Thank you,
Pasha

  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-23 14:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-22 20:24 Pavel Tatashin
2017-03-22 20:24 ` [v1 1/9] sched/clock: broken stable to unstable transfer Pavel Tatashin
2017-03-27 10:27   ` [tip:sched/urgent] sched/clock: Fix " tip-bot for Pavel Tatashin
2017-03-22 20:24 ` [v1 2/9] sched/clock: interface to allow timestamps early in boot Pavel Tatashin
2017-03-22 20:24 ` [v1 3/9] x86/cpu: determining x86 vendor early Pavel Tatashin
2017-03-22 20:24 ` [v1 4/9] x86/tsc: early MSR-based CPU/TSC frequency discovery Pavel Tatashin
2017-03-22 20:24 ` [v1 5/9] x86/tsc: disable early messages from quick_pit_calibrate Pavel Tatashin
2017-03-22 20:24 ` [v1 6/9] x86/tsc: use cpuid to determine TSC frequency Pavel Tatashin
2017-03-22 20:24 ` [v1 7/9] x86/tsc: use cpuid to determine CPU frequency Pavel Tatashin
2017-03-22 20:24 ` [v1 8/9] x86/tsc: tsc early Pavel Tatashin
2017-03-24  5:38   ` kbuild test robot
2017-03-22 20:24 ` [v1 9/9] x86/tsc: use " Pavel Tatashin
2017-03-22 20:27 ` [v1 0/9] Early boot time stamps for x86 Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-23  0:02   ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-03-22 20:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-22 23:59   ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-03-23 10:56     ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-03-23 14:39       ` Pasha Tatashin [this message]
2017-03-23 18:40         ` Thomas Gleixner

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