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From: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>
To: Zhang Qiao <zhangqiao22@huawei.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: tanghui20@huawei.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] sched/fair: scale wake_wide() threshold by SMT width
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2026 16:38:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0aca0ee5-4102-426e-b290-6c50b6e819a7@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260407063915.2034198-1-zhangqiao22@huawei.com>

On 07.04.26 08:39, Zhang Qiao wrote:
> wake_wide() uses sd_llc_size as the spreading threshold to detect wide
> waker/wakee relationships and to disable wake_affine() for those cases.
> 
> On SMT systems, sd_llc_size counts logical CPUs rather than physical
> cores. This inflates the wake_wide() threshold, allowing wake_affine()
> to pack more tasks into one LLC domain than the actual compute capacity
> of its physical cores can sustain. The resulting SMT interference may
> cost more than the cache-locality benefit wake_affine() intends to gain.
> 
> Scale the factor by the SMT width of the current CPU so that it
> approximates the number of independent physical cores in the LLC domain,
> making wake_wide() more likely to kick in before SMT interference
> becomes significant. On non-SMT systems the SMT width is 1 and behaviour
> is unchanged.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Zhang Qiao <zhangqiao22@huawei.com>
> ---
>  kernel/sched/fair.c | 5 +++++
>  1 file changed, 5 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> index f07df8987a5ef..4896582c6e904 100644
> --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> @@ -7334,6 +7334,11 @@ static int wake_wide(struct task_struct *p)
>  	unsigned int slave = p->wakee_flips;
>  	int factor = __this_cpu_read(sd_llc_size);
>  
> +	/* Scale factor to physical-core count to account for SMT interference. */
> +	if (sched_smt_active())
> +		factor = DIV_ROUND_UP(factor,
> +				cpumask_weight(cpu_smt_mask(smp_processor_id())));
> +
>  	if (master < slave)
>  		swap(master, slave);
>  	if (slave < factor || master < slave * factor)

I assume not a lot of people care since this needs:

diff --git a/kernel/sched/topology.c b/kernel/sched/topology.c
index 5847b83d9d55..596c5d590532 100644
--- a/kernel/sched/topology.c
+++ b/kernel/sched/topology.c
@@ -1691,7 +1691,7 @@ sd_init(struct sched_domain_topology_level *tl,
                .flags                  = 1*SD_BALANCE_NEWIDLE
                                        | 1*SD_BALANCE_EXEC
                                        | 1*SD_BALANCE_FORK
-                                       | 0*SD_BALANCE_WAKE
+                                       | 1*SD_BALANCE_WAKE
                                        | 1*SD_WAKE_AFFINE
                                        | 0*SD_SHARE_CPUCAPACITY
                                        | 0*SD_SHARE_LLC

And then it's a trade-off between one busy thread per core vs. wakeup cost.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-07 14:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-07  6:39 Zhang Qiao
2026-04-07 14:38 ` Dietmar Eggemann [this message]
2026-04-07 18:16   ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-04-22 13:24     ` Dietmar Eggemann
2026-04-07 17:58 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-04-16  7:41   ` Zhang Qiao
2026-04-22 13:26     ` Dietmar Eggemann
2026-04-29  2:43       ` Zhang Qiao
2026-05-11 15:54         ` Dietmar Eggemann
2026-05-18  7:58           ` Zhang Qiao

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