From: Nicolas Dufresne <nicolas.dufresne@collabora.com>
To: Devarsh Thakkar <devarsht@ti.com>,
"jackson.lee" <jackson.lee@chipsnmedia.com>,
"mchehab@kernel.org" <mchehab@kernel.org>,
"sebastian.fricke@collabora.com"
<sebastian.fricke@collabora.com>
Cc: "linux-media@vger.kernel.org" <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"hverkuil@xs4all.nl" <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>,
Nas Chung <nas.chung@chipsnmedia.com>,
"lafley.kim" <lafley.kim@chipsnmedia.com>,
"b-brnich@ti.com" <b-brnich@ti.com>
Subject: Re: [RESEND PATCH v6 2/4] media: chips-media: wave5: Support runtime suspend/resume
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2024 11:24:03 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <0b84bd4640c4c7ff52d1452d73e1ba46f6cedd7d.camel@collabora.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1cefd686-2eb2-e0b2-0b24-2c4efb0c41a1@ti.com>
Le jeudi 20 juin 2024 à 20:22 +0530, Devarsh Thakkar a écrit :
> Hi Jackson, Nicolas,
>
> On 20/06/24 19:33, Nicolas Dufresne wrote:
> > Hi Jackson, Devarsh,
> >
> > Le mercredi 19 juin 2024 à 23:56 +0000, jackson.lee a écrit :
> > > Hi Devarsh
> > >
> > > If there is no feeding bitstreams during encoding and decoding frames, then driver's status is switched to suspended automatically by autosuspend.
> > > And if we don’t use autosuspend, it is very difficult for us to catch if there is feeding or not while working a pipeline.
> > > So it is very efficient for managing power status.
> > >
> > > If the delay is very great value, we can adjust it.
> >
> > One way to resolve this, would be if someone share measurement of the suspend /
> > resume cycle duration. With firmware (third party OS) like this, the cost and
> > duration is few order of magnitude higher then with more basic ASIC like Hantro
> > and other single function HW.
> >
> > Yet, 5s might be to much (but clearly safe), but getting two low may means that
> > we suspect "between two frames", and if that happens, we may endup with various
> > range of side effect, like reduce throughput due to suspend collisions, or even
> > worse power footprint. Some lab testing to adjust the value will be needed, we
> > have very little of that happening at the moment as I understood.
> >
>
> Okay I see the intention here is that if there is a process holding the vpu
> device handle and the input feed is stalled for some seconds due to network
> delay or CPU throughput then after a specified timeout say 5 seconds we want
> to suspend even if the process is still active and holding the vpu device
> handle ? I agree then if we want to support this feature a safer/slightly
> larger value is required to avoid frequent suspend/resume due to network
> jitter or any other bottleneck and maybe 5s is a good value to start with.
>
> But if last instance is closed/stops streaming and there is no process holding
> the device handle anymore then I think we should suspend immediately without
> any delay.
Our emails crossed each other, but see my explanation about gapless playback
transiton, were userspace may destroy and create a new video session. I believe
5s is way too long to be honest.
Nicolas
>
> Regards
> Devarsh
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-06-20 15:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-06-17 10:48 [RESEND PATCH v6 0/4] Add features to an existing driver Jackson.lee
2024-06-17 10:48 ` [RESEND PATCH v6 1/4] media: chips-media: wave5: Support SPS/PPS generation for each IDR Jackson.lee
2024-06-17 10:48 ` [RESEND PATCH v6 2/4] media: chips-media: wave5: Support runtime suspend/resume Jackson.lee
2024-06-19 13:00 ` Devarsh Thakkar
2024-06-19 23:56 ` jackson.lee
2024-06-20 0:11 ` jackson.lee
2024-06-20 9:35 ` Devarsh Thakkar
2024-06-20 14:05 ` Nicolas Dufresne
2024-06-20 14:20 ` Devarsh Thakkar
2024-06-20 17:32 ` Nicolas Dufresne
2024-06-21 0:30 ` jackson.lee
2024-06-21 11:55 ` Devarsh Thakkar
2024-06-21 12:45 ` jackson.lee
2024-06-21 12:31 ` Devarsh Thakkar
2024-07-15 17:01 ` Nicolas Dufresne
2024-07-12 6:10 ` jackson.lee
2024-07-15 17:05 ` Nicolas Dufresne
2024-07-16 1:02 ` jackson.lee
2024-06-20 14:03 ` Nicolas Dufresne
2024-06-20 14:52 ` Devarsh Thakkar
2024-06-20 15:24 ` Nicolas Dufresne [this message]
2024-06-21 7:36 ` jackson.lee
2024-06-20 15:20 ` Nicolas Dufresne
2024-06-17 10:48 ` [RESEND PATCH v6 3/4] media: chips-media: wave5: Use helpers to calculate bytesperline and sizeimage Jackson.lee
2024-06-17 10:48 ` [RESEND PATCH v6 4/4] media: chips-media: wave5: Support YUV422 raw pixel-formats on the encoder Jackson.lee
2024-06-18 9:29 ` [RESEND PATCH v6 0/4] Add features to an existing driver Sebastian Fricke
2024-06-19 5:38 ` jackson.lee
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