From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
Waiman Long <llong@redhat.com>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>, Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>,
Clark Williams <clrkwllms@kernel.org>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-rt-devel@lists.linux.dev,
Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] irqchip/gic-v3-its: Don't acquire rt_spin_lock in allocate_vpe_l1_table()
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2026 18:59:11 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <0c33bdee-6de8-4d9f-92ca-4f72c1b6fb9f@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260113115515.98Mc29Nm@linutronix.de>
On 1/13/26 12:55, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> On 2026-01-12 12:14:30 [-0500], Waiman Long wrote:
>> On 1/12/26 10:09 AM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>> > They might be acquired though. Only alloc_pages_nolock() guarantees that
>> > no lock is taken IIRC.
>>
>> Thanks for the suggestion. I will look into using that for page allocation.
>> I had actually attempt to use kmalloc_nolock() to replace kzalloc()
>> initially. Even though it removed the call to rmqueue(), but there were
>> other spinlocks in the slub code that were still being acquired like the
>> local_lock() or the spinlock in the get_random() code. So I gave up using
Hmm if get_random() code takes a spinlock, we have an unsolved
incompatibility with kmalloc_nolock() and CONFIG_SLAB_FREELIST_RANDOM.
>> that. Anyway, kmalloc_nolock() doesn't seem to be fully working yet.
>
> with kmalloc_nolock() you have to be able to deal with a NULL pointer.
Yes. So even after we fix the current problems with incompatible context, I
think kmalloc_nolock() would still be a bad fit for hw bringup code that
should not really fail. Because the possibility of failure will always
exist. The BPF use case that motivated it is quite different.
> Looking at kmalloc_nolock(), it has this (in_nmi() || in_hardirq())
> check on PREEMPT_RT. The reasoning was unconditional raw_spinlock_t
> locking and bad lock-owner recording for hardirq.
> There was a trylock path for local_lock to make it work from atomic
> context. But from what I can tell this goes
> kmalloc_nolock_noprof() -> __slab_alloc_node() -> __slab_alloc() ->
> ___slab_alloc() -> local_lock_cpu_slab()
>
> The last one does local_lock_irqsave() on PREEMPT_RT which does a
> spin_lock(). That means atomic context is not possible. Where did I make
> a wrong turn? Or did this change recently? I do remember that Alexei
> reworked parts of the allocator to make the local_lock based trylock
> allocation work.
>
>> Cheers,
>> Longman
>
> Sebastian
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-14 17:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-07 21:53 Waiman Long
2026-01-08 8:26 ` Marc Zyngier
2026-01-08 22:11 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-01-09 16:13 ` Marc Zyngier
2026-01-11 9:39 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-01-11 10:38 ` Marc Zyngier
2026-01-11 16:20 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-01-12 11:20 ` Marc Zyngier
2026-01-12 14:08 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-01-12 14:38 ` Marc Zyngier
2026-01-21 8:38 ` Marc Zyngier
2026-01-21 16:48 ` Waiman Long
2026-01-21 20:41 ` Waiman Long
2026-01-22 3:49 ` Waiman Long
2026-03-09 19:06 ` Waiman Long
2026-03-10 8:12 ` Marc Zyngier
2026-01-11 23:02 ` Waiman Long
2026-01-12 15:09 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-01-12 17:14 ` Waiman Long
2026-01-13 11:55 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-01-13 23:25 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-01-14 16:01 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-01-14 17:59 ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2026-01-21 16:37 ` Waiman Long
2026-01-10 21:47 ` Waiman Long
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