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From: "Yang, Weijiang" <weijiang.yang@intel.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: <pbonzini@redhat.com>, <dave.hansen@intel.com>, <x86@kernel.org>,
	<kvm@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<peterz@infradead.org>, <chao.gao@intel.com>,
	<rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>, <mlevitsk@redhat.com>,
	<john.allen@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 24/27] KVM: x86: Enable CET virtualization for VMX and advertise to userspace
Date: Tue, 7 May 2024 10:37:47 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0ec64962-393c-4b2d-9689-c0375d7346aa@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZjkLVj01V4bM8z5c@google.com>

On 5/7/2024 12:54 AM, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> On Mon, May 06, 2024, Weijiang Yang wrote:
>> On 5/2/2024 7:15 AM, Sean Christopherson wrote:
>>> On Sun, Feb 18, 2024, Yang Weijiang wrote:
>>>> @@ -696,6 +697,20 @@ void kvm_set_cpu_caps(void)
>>>>    		kvm_cpu_cap_set(X86_FEATURE_INTEL_STIBP);
>>>>    	if (boot_cpu_has(X86_FEATURE_AMD_SSBD))
>>>>    		kvm_cpu_cap_set(X86_FEATURE_SPEC_CTRL_SSBD);
>>>> +	/*
>>>> +	 * Don't use boot_cpu_has() to check availability of IBT because the
>>>> +	 * feature bit is cleared in boot_cpu_data when ibt=off is applied
>>>> +	 * in host cmdline.
>>> I'm not convinced this is a good reason to diverge from the host kernel.  E.g.
>>> PCID and many other features honor the host setup, I don't see what makes IBT
>>> special.
>> This is mostly based on our user experience and the hypothesis for cloud
>> computing: When we evolve host kernels, we constantly encounter issues when
>> kernel IBT is on, so we have to disable kernel IBT by adding ibt=off. But we
>> need to test the CET features in VM, if we just simply refer to host boot
>> cpuid data, then IBT cannot be enabled in VM which makes CET features
>> incomplete in guest.
>>
>> I guess in cloud computing, it could run into similar dilemma. In this case,
>> the tenant cannot benefit the feature just because of host SW problem.
> Hmm, but such issues should be found before deploying a kernel to production.
>
> The one scenario that comes to mind where I can see someone wanting to disable
> IBT would be running a out-of-tree and/or third party module.

Yes, the developers may neglect IBT violations in modules/kernel components and deploy
them, in this case, host side has to either fix the issues or disable IBT.

>
>> I know currently KVM except LA57 always honors host feature configurations,
>> but in CET case, there could be divergence wrt honoring host configuration as
>> long as there's no quirk for the feature.
>>
>> But I think the issue is still open for discussion...
> I'm not totally opposed to the idea.
>
> Somewhat off-topic, the existing LA57 code upon which the IBT check is based is
> flawed, as it doesn't account for the max supported CPUID leaf.  On Intel CPUs,
> that could result in a false positive due CPUID (stupidly) returning the value
> of the last implemented CPUID leaf, no zeros.  In practice, it doesn't cause
> problems because CPUID.0x7 has been supported since forever, but it's still a
> bug.
>
> Hmm, actually, __kvm_cpu_cap_mask() has the exact same bug.  And that's much less
> theoretical, e.g. kvm_cpu_cap_init_kvm_defined() in particular is likely to cause
> problems at some point.
>
> And I really don't like that KVM open codes calls to cpuid_<reg>() for these
> "raw" features.  One option would be to and helpers to change this:
>
> 	if (cpuid_edx(7) & F(IBT))
> 		kvm_cpu_cap_set(X86_FEATURE_IBT);
>
> to this:
>
> 	if (raw_cpuid_has(X86_FEATURE_IBT))
> 		kvm_cpu_cap_set(X86_FEATURE_IBT);
>
> but I think we can do better, and harden the CPUID code in the process.  If we
> do kvm_cpu_cap_set() _before_ kvm_cpu_cap_mask(), then incorporating the raw host
> CPUID will happen automagically, as __kvm_cpu_cap_mask() will clear bits that
> aren't in host CPUID.
>
> The most obvious approach would be to simply call kvm_cpu_cap_set() before
> kvm_cpu_cap_mask(), but that's more than a bit confusing, and would open the door
> for potential bugs due to calling kvm_cpu_cap_set() after kvm_cpu_cap_mask().
> And detecting such bugs would be difficult, because there are features that KVM
> fully emulates, i.e. _must_ be stuffed after kvm_cpu_cap_mask().
>
> Instead of calling kvm_cpu_cap_set() directly, we can take advantage of the fact
> that the F() maskes are fed into kvm_cpu_cap_mask(), i.e. are naturally processed
> before the corresponding kvm_cpu_cap_mask().
>
> If we add an array to track which capabilities have been initialized, then F()
> can WARN on improper usage.  That would allow detecting bad "raw" usage, *and*
> would detect (some) scenarios where a F() is fed into the wrong leaf, e.g. if
> we added F(LA57) to CPUID_7_EDX instead of CPUID_7_ECX.
>
> #define F(name)								\
> ({									\
> 	u32 __leaf = __feature_leaf(X86_FEATURE_##name);		\
> 									\
> 	BUILD_BUG_ON(__leaf >= ARRAY_SIZE(kvm_cpu_cap_initialized));	\
> 	WARN_ON_ONCE(kvm_cpu_cap_initialized[__leaf]);			\
> 									\
> 	feature_bit(name);						\
> })
>
> /*
>   * Raw Feature - For features that KVM supports based purely on raw host CPUID,
>   * i.e. that KVM virtualizes even if the host kernel doesn't use the feature.
>   * Simply force set the feature in KVM's capabilities, raw CPUID support will
>   * be factored in by kvm_cpu_cap_mask().
>   */
> #define RAW_F(name)						\
> ({								\
> 	kvm_cpu_cap_set(X86_FEATURE_##name);			\
> 	F(name);						\
> })
>
> Assuming testing doesn't poke a hole in my idea, I'll post a small series.

Fancy enough! But I like the idea :-)

>


  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-07  2:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-19  7:47 [PATCH v10 00/27] Enable CET Virtualization Yang Weijiang
2024-02-19  7:47 ` [PATCH v10 01/27] x86/fpu/xstate: Always preserve non-user xfeatures/flags in __state_perm Yang Weijiang
2024-02-19  7:47 ` [PATCH v10 02/27] x86/fpu/xstate: Refine CET user xstate bit enabling Yang Weijiang
2024-02-19  7:47 ` [PATCH v10 03/27] x86/fpu/xstate: Add CET supervisor mode state support Yang Weijiang
2024-02-19  7:47 ` [PATCH v10 04/27] x86/fpu/xstate: Introduce XFEATURE_MASK_KERNEL_DYNAMIC xfeature set Yang Weijiang
2024-05-01 18:45   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-02 17:46     ` Dave Hansen
2024-05-07 22:57       ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-07 23:17         ` Dave Hansen
2024-05-08  1:19           ` Yang, Weijiang
2024-02-19  7:47 ` [PATCH v10 05/27] x86/fpu/xstate: Introduce fpu_guest_cfg for guest FPU configuration Yang Weijiang
2024-02-19  7:47 ` [PATCH v10 06/27] x86/fpu/xstate: Create guest fpstate with guest specific config Yang Weijiang
2024-02-19  7:47 ` [PATCH v10 07/27] x86/fpu/xstate: Warn if kernel dynamic xfeatures detected in normal fpstate Yang Weijiang
2024-02-19  7:47 ` [PATCH v10 08/27] KVM: x86: Rework cpuid_get_supported_xcr0() to operate on vCPU data Yang Weijiang
2024-02-19  7:47 ` [PATCH v10 09/27] KVM: x86: Rename kvm_{g,s}et_msr()* to menifest emulation operations Yang Weijiang
2024-05-01 18:54   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-06  5:58     ` Yang, Weijiang
2024-02-19  7:47 ` [PATCH v10 10/27] KVM: x86: Refine xsave-managed guest register/MSR reset handling Yang Weijiang
2024-02-20  3:04   ` Chao Gao
2024-02-20 13:23     ` Yang, Weijiang
2024-05-01 20:40   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-06  7:26     ` Yang, Weijiang
2024-02-19  7:47 ` [PATCH v10 11/27] KVM: x86: Add kvm_msr_{read,write}() helpers Yang Weijiang
2024-02-19  7:47 ` [PATCH v10 12/27] KVM: x86: Report XSS as to-be-saved if there are supported features Yang Weijiang
2024-02-19  7:47 ` [PATCH v10 13/27] KVM: x86: Refresh CPUID on write to guest MSR_IA32_XSS Yang Weijiang
2024-02-20  8:51   ` Chao Gao
2024-05-01 20:43   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-06  7:30     ` Yang, Weijiang
2024-02-19  7:47 ` [PATCH v10 14/27] KVM: x86: Initialize kvm_caps.supported_xss Yang Weijiang
2024-02-19  7:47 ` [PATCH v10 15/27] KVM: x86: Load guest FPU state when access XSAVE-managed MSRs Yang Weijiang
2024-02-19  7:47 ` [PATCH v10 16/27] KVM: x86: Add fault checks for guest CR4.CET setting Yang Weijiang
2024-02-19  7:47 ` [PATCH v10 17/27] KVM: x86: Report KVM supported CET MSRs as to-be-saved Yang Weijiang
2024-05-01 22:40   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-06  8:31     ` Yang, Weijiang
2024-05-07 17:27       ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-08  7:00         ` Yang, Weijiang
2024-02-19  7:47 ` [PATCH v10 18/27] KVM: VMX: Introduce CET VMCS fields and control bits Yang Weijiang
2024-02-19  7:47 ` [PATCH v10 19/27] KVM: x86: Use KVM-governed feature framework to track "SHSTK/IBT enabled" Yang Weijiang
2024-02-19  7:47 ` [PATCH v10 20/27] KVM: VMX: Emulate read and write to CET MSRs Yang Weijiang
2024-03-12 22:55   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-03-13  9:43     ` Yang, Weijiang
2024-03-13 16:00       ` Sean Christopherson
2024-02-19  7:47 ` [PATCH v10 21/27] KVM: x86: Save and reload SSP to/from SMRAM Yang Weijiang
2024-05-01 22:50   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-06  8:41     ` Yang, Weijiang
2024-02-19  7:47 ` [PATCH v10 22/27] KVM: VMX: Set up interception for CET MSRs Yang Weijiang
2024-05-01 23:07   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-06  8:48     ` Yang, Weijiang
2024-02-19  7:47 ` [PATCH v10 23/27] KVM: VMX: Set host constant supervisor states to VMCS fields Yang Weijiang
2024-02-19  7:47 ` [PATCH v10 24/27] KVM: x86: Enable CET virtualization for VMX and advertise to userspace Yang Weijiang
2024-05-01 23:15   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-01 23:24     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-06  9:19     ` Yang, Weijiang
2024-05-06 16:54       ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-07  2:37         ` Yang, Weijiang [this message]
2024-05-06 17:05       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-06 23:33         ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-06 23:53           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-07 14:21             ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-07 14:45               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-07 15:08                 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-07 15:33                   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-16  7:13     ` Yang, Weijiang
2024-05-16 14:39       ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-16 15:36         ` Dave Hansen
2024-05-16 16:58           ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-17  8:27             ` Yang, Weijiang
2024-05-17  8:57         ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-05-17 14:26           ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-20  9:43             ` Yang, Weijiang
2024-05-20 17:09               ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-20 17:15                 ` Dave Hansen
2024-05-22  9:03                   ` Yang, Weijiang
2024-05-22 15:06                     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-23 10:07                       ` Yang, Weijiang
2024-05-22  8:41                 ` Yang, Weijiang
2024-05-27  9:05                   ` Yang, Weijiang
2024-05-01 23:34   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-06  9:41     ` Yang, Weijiang
2024-05-16  7:20       ` Yang, Weijiang
2024-05-16 14:43         ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-17  8:04           ` Yang, Weijiang
2024-02-19  7:47 ` [PATCH v10 25/27] KVM: nVMX: Introduce new VMX_BASIC bit for event error_code delivery to L1 Yang Weijiang
2024-05-01 23:19   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-06  9:19     ` Yang, Weijiang
2024-02-19  7:47 ` [PATCH v10 26/27] KVM: nVMX: Enable CET support for nested guest Yang Weijiang
2024-05-01 23:23   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-06  9:25     ` Yang, Weijiang
2024-02-19  7:47 ` [PATCH v10 27/27] KVM: x86: Don't emulate instructions guarded by CET Yang Weijiang
2024-05-01 23:24   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-06  9:26     ` Yang, Weijiang
2024-03-06 14:44 ` [PATCH v10 00/27] Enable CET Virtualization Yang, Weijiang
2024-05-01 23:27 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-06  9:31   ` Yang, Weijiang
2024-11-05 18:25     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-11-06  1:45       ` Yang, Weijiang
2024-11-06  3:20         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-11-06 16:32           ` Sean Christopherson
2024-11-07  2:05             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-11-12  0:33             ` Chao Gao
2024-11-12 20:03               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-11-13 10:53                 ` Chao Gao

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