RE:Re: Re: Re: Why is Nvidia given GPL'd code to use in closed source drivers?

RE:Re: Re: Re: Why is Nvidia given GPL'd code to use in closed source drivers?

[Hell.Surfers]

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you are incorrect about how the GPL works you are attempting to anger me but I dont care, go and learn, finish school, then annoy me.

Dean. Three ways to kill yourself, and ive been drove in one...

On Tue, 31 Dec 2002 21:51:45 -0800 A Guy Called Tyketto <tyketto@wizard.com> wrote:

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From: A Guy Called Tyketto <tyketto@wizard.com>
To: Hell.Surfers@cwctv.net
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Why is Nvidia given GPL'd code to use in closed source drivers?
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 21:51:45 -0800
Message-ID: <20030101055145.GA8790@wizard.com>

On Wed, Jan 01, 2003 at 05:30:18AM +0000, Hell.Surfers@cwctv.net wrote:
> They are stealing by changing GPL files, and not giving the source, its 

        And just how the smeg do you KNOW they're CHANGING these files, aye? 
Do you have some super secret K-9 nose that the rest of us don't, and can 
tell? Have you reverse engineered the binary to see? Please, enlighten us.

not for personal use so they are DISTRIBUTING it, and INCLUDING IT. 

        This does not make sense. You're saying they're changing GPL'd files, 
though they can use them any way they choose, as long as they notify the 
original author of the changes they made. Whether they redistribute the CODE, 
is up to them. They chose not to. As long as they have notified those who 
wrote the headers, no GPL violation has been made.

BUT they dont give out their DERIVED source. 

        Once again, there is no clause in the GPL that states they MUST give 
out the code. All they need to do is notify the author. Also, They MUST give 
out the code, if they've MODIFIED the headers. You'd be stewing and eating 
your boots for dinner if NVidia released the code, and you found no headers to 
be modified. their code, they can do anything they want. But for the headers, 
all they'd need to do for changing their code, is to keep a current version of 
the headers from the kernel, and program their C code to their content. Once 
again, No. GPL. Violation.
 
I work with C everyday and when you put in a header file you are including it,
all kernel headers are GPL. I read the license 4 times a day and have 
since 1995.

        And we don't deal with C at all. The kernel is programmed in COBOL, 
ADA, Modula-2, Mumps, and Pick. Hell, I just might port it part of it over to 
Logo. Oh damn.. Apple will sue me for that.. Let's port it to C! I'll learn 
it, with my trusty Visual C, and Borland C compilers! </sarcasm>

                                                        BL.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Why is Nvidia given GPL'd code to use in closed source drivers?

[A Guy Called Tyketto]

On Wed, Jan 01, 2003 at 05:59:12AM +0000, Hell.Surfers@cwctv.net wrote:
> you are incorrect about how the GPL works you are attempting to anger me
 but I dont care, go and learn, finish school, then annoy me.
> 

        I am? I'm sorry. I did not mean to anger someone who is more 
experienced and sagely than a mere fool such as myself. I suppose I'll throw 
away my Bachelor's degree in Comp. Sci from '96, all the C programs I've coded 
since 91, all the logo since '81, as well as the projects I'm currently 
working on. I am such a fool. Back to programming Zaxxon on my Apple IIe for 
me. Perhaps even Karateka.. or Spy Hunter.

        BTW: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html . Bookmark it. And come 
back when you have a better MUA. It's starting to remind me of WebTV.

                                                        BL.

        P.S.

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                Smee... Smeeg Heeeeeed!!
        Rimmer: Smeghead?
        Kryten: That's it!
        Rimmer: He remembers me!!

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