From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
To: "Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)" <ljs@kernel.org>,
Kiryl Shutsemau <kas@kernel.org>
Cc: Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
"Liam R. Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
Nico Pache <nico.pache@linux.dev>,
Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>, Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>,
Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>, Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>,
Usama Arif <usama.arif@linux.dev>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/3] mm/khugepaged: release contended mmap read lock after scanning enough VMAs
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2026 16:00:55 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <0fb93821-3449-44f5-936b-986b485b5f9f@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <avHUKAT7-H5Ov5RC@gremlin>
On 11/9/26 15:12, Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM) wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 09, 2026 at 03:01:29PM +0100, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
>> On 11/6/26 13:07, Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM) wrote:
>>> On reflection, I think this would be better implemented as something like:
>>>
>>> static void collapse_scan_mm_slot(unsigned int progress_max, ...)
>>> {
>>> unsigned int long lock_start = jiffies;
>>> ...
>>> for_each_vma(vmi, vma) {
>>> ...
>>> if (time_after(jiffies, lock_start) && mmap_lock_is_contended(mm)) {
>>> mmap_read_unlock(mm);
>>> cond_resched();
>>> mmap_read_lock(mm);
>>> lock_start = jiffies;
>>> vma_iter_set(&vmi, mm_slot->address);
>>> continue;
>>> }
>>> }
>>> }
>>>
>>> Which avoids magic numbers, and means if we hold the lock for 1-10ms (depending
>>> on HZ), which is a long time in the kernel to hold a lock, AND the lock is
>>> contended, we drop/reacquire.
>>
>> That approach indeed sounds better to me regarding lock contention.
>
> Unfortunately it makes things measurably worse (it's not fine-grained
> enough). Trying to get a fine-grained timer will involve preemption
> disable/enable pairs, so a no go.
Ah. :(
>
> This is the alternative I have locally which explains the number, puts VMA in
> the name and it applies to _all_ VMAs as requested.
>
> Let me know what you think!
>
> The jiffies version would obviously just be this but with the above, but that
> one results in max ~2 ms-level stalls rather than ~200us.
>
> diff --git a/mm/khugepaged.c b/mm/khugepaged.c
> index 7d1414a9b2a5..59bbef61f104 100644
> --- a/mm/khugepaged.c
> +++ b/mm/khugepaged.c
> @@ -66,6 +66,13 @@ static DEFINE_READ_MOSTLY_HASHTABLE(mm_slots_hash, MM_SLOTS_HASH_BITS);
>
> static struct kmem_cache *mm_slot_cache __ro_after_init;
>
> +/*
> + * The number of VMAs to walk before checking for, and relieving, mmap lock
> + * contention. This bounds the maximum mmap read lock to an estimated ~100 -
> + * 300us depending on hardware.
> + */
> +#define KHUGEPAGED_MAX_VMA_SCAN_BATCH 1024
> +
> /**
> * struct khugepaged_mm_slot - khugepaged information per mm that is being scanned
> * @slot: hash lookup from mm to mm_slot
> @@ -2910,6 +2917,7 @@ static void collapse_scan_mm_slot(unsigned int progress_max,
> struct mm_struct *mm;
> struct vm_area_struct *vma;
> unsigned int progress_prev = cc->progress;
> + unsigned int nr_vmas_batch = 0;
>
> lockdep_assert_held(&khugepaged_mm_lock);
> *result = SCAN_FAIL;
> @@ -2942,6 +2950,18 @@ static void collapse_scan_mm_slot(unsigned int progress_max,
> for_each_vma(vmi, vma) {
> unsigned long hstart, hend;
>
> + /* Relieve mmap lock contention after walking a batch of VMAs. */
> + if (nr_vmas_batch++ >= KHUGEPAGED_MAX_VMA_SCAN_BATCH) {
> + nr_vmas_batch = 0;
> + if (mmap_lock_is_contended(mm)) {
> + mmap_read_unlock(mm);
> + cond_resched();
> + mmap_read_lock(mm);
> + vma_iter_set(&vmi, mm_slot->address);
> + continue;
> + }
> + }
> +
> cond_resched();
> if (unlikely(collapse_test_exit_or_disable(mm))) {
> cc->progress++;
Looks better to me than the original.
@Kiryl, we talked about dropping the mmap lock recently, would this create a
regression for your scanning use-cases?
--
Cheers,
David
prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-11-09 15:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-11-05 20:57 [PATCH v2 0/3] mm/khugepaged: bound mmap_lock hold time when walking an mm's VMAs Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-11-05 20:57 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] Revert "mm/khugepaged: remove definition of struct khugepaged_mm_slot" Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-11-05 21:47 ` Jose A. Perez de Azpillaga
2026-11-06 9:41 ` Baolin Wang
2026-11-05 20:57 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] mm/khugepaged: scan mm's more efficiently under mmap_lock contention Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-11-05 21:48 ` Jose A. Perez de Azpillaga
2026-11-06 9:31 ` Baolin Wang
2026-11-05 20:57 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] mm/khugepaged: release contended mmap read lock after scanning enough VMAs Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-11-05 21:53 ` Jose A. Perez de Azpillaga
2026-11-06 10:03 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-11-06 10:29 ` Jose A. Perez de Azpillaga
2026-11-06 10:33 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-11-06 10:49 ` Jose A. Perez de Azpillaga
2026-11-06 2:12 ` Vernon Yang
2026-11-06 9:29 ` Vernon Yang
2026-11-06 10:49 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-11-06 9:38 ` Baolin Wang
2026-11-06 10:52 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-11-06 12:07 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-11-06 12:23 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-11-06 13:26 ` Vernon Yang
2026-11-06 15:24 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-11-06 15:39 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-11-09 14:01 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-11-09 14:12 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-11-09 15:00 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]
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