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From: richard offer <offer@sgi.com>
To: Chris Wright <chris@wirex.com>, Stephen Smalley <sds@epoch.ncsc.mil>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	lsm <linux-security-module@wirex.com>, "Ted Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Stephen Tweedie <sct@redhat.com>,
	Andreas Gruenbacher <ag@bestbits.at>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] Extended Attributes for Security Modules
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 13:53:07 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1020130000.1050612787@changeling.engr.sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030417133059.G29431@figure1.int.wirex.com>



* frm chris@wirex.com "04/17/03 13:30:59 -0700" | sed '1,$s/^/* /'
*
** Stephen Smalley (sds@epoch.ncsc.mil) wrote:
*> On Wed, 2003-04-16 at 18:02, richard offer wrote:
*> > I can see your reasons for the single attribute (known quantity for
*> > production systems), but think its better at this stage to experiment
*> > with multiple attributes and see how people use them before forcing
*> > everyone to a single standard. It allows small steps rather than force
*> > everyone to make a single large one.
*> 
*> Per-module attribute names create no incentive for the security module
*> writers to provide a consistent API and guarantees a forked userland. 
* 
* This is the core issue.  Personally, I'd rather stick to simple strings
* and per-module attributes rooted at a common point.  This is simplest
* for userspace tools.  But the attribute namespace is effectively flat,
* so it's a question of simplicity for locating the attributes.  A simple
* getxattr(2) vs. a listxattr(2) plus multiple getxattr(2).  Unfortunately,
* this points at a single standard name I think...

Good point. Okay you've conviced me enough that while I don't agree more
than 51%, I'm at least going to shut up until the next time.


Would it make sense to have a single "backup/restore security label" tool
that is distributed alongside LSM rather than relying on each module writer
developing their own.

* 
* thanks,
* -chris

richard.

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Richard Offer                     Technical Lead, Trust Technology, SGI
"Specialization is for insects"
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  reply	other threads:[~2003-04-17 20:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-04-10 12:06 Stephen Smalley
2003-04-13 22:57 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2003-04-15 13:41   ` Stephen Smalley
2003-04-15 16:58     ` richard offer
2003-04-15 18:19       ` Stephen Smalley
2003-04-16 13:47       ` Stephen Smalley
2003-04-16 22:02         ` richard offer
2003-04-17  4:24           ` Stephen Smalley
2003-04-17 20:30             ` Chris Wright
2003-04-17 20:53               ` richard offer [this message]
2003-04-18  1:07                 ` Chris Wright
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-04-15 18:33 Chuck Ebbert
2003-04-15 18:56 ` Chris Wright
2003-04-08 20:26 Stephen Smalley

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