From: Tony Gale <gale@syntax.dstl.gov.uk>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: One for the Security Guru's
Date: 24 Oct 2002 11:01:04 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1035453664.1035.11.camel@syntax.dstl.gov.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ap8f36$8ge$1@dstl.gov.uk>
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On Thu, 2002-10-24 at 10:38, Henning P. Schmiedehausen wrote:
> Gerhard Mack <gmack@innerfire.net> writes:
>
> >Actually at the place that just went bankrupt on me I had a Security
> >consultant complain that 2 of my servers were outside the firewall. He
> >recommended that I get a firewall just for those 2 servers but backed off
> >when I pointed out that I would need to open all of the same ports that
> >are open on the server anyways so the vulnerability isn't any less with
> >the firewall.
>
> So you should've bought a more expensive firewall that offers protocol
> based forwarding instead of being a simple packet filter.
>
> packet filter != firewall. That's the main lie behind most of the
> "Linux based" firewalls.
>
> Get the real thing. Checkpoint. PIX. But that's a little
> more expensive than "xxx firewall based on Linux".
>
Thats not entirely accurate, or fair. A packet filter is a type of
Firewall (or can be). A Firewall is a means to implement a security
policy, usually specifically a network access policy. A Packet Filter,
including a ""Linux based" firewall" is a perfectly acceptable means of
achieving that goal, if it meets the policy requirements.
Ref. http://csrc.nist.gov/publications/nistpubs/800-10/ (over 7 years
old, but still highly relevant).
Most commercial firewalls are very bad at protecting servers offering
Internet services, they aren't designed to do it.
-tony
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-10-24 9:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-10-23 13:02 Robert L. Harris
2002-10-23 13:13 ` John Jasen
2002-10-23 13:20 ` Keith Owens
2002-10-24 7:56 ` Greg KH
2002-10-23 13:45 ` Alan Cox
2002-10-23 13:59 ` Gilad Ben-ossef
2002-10-23 22:14 ` James Cleverdon
2002-10-23 22:17 ` James Stevenson
2002-10-23 22:39 ` James Cleverdon
2002-10-23 22:44 ` James Stevenson
2002-10-24 6:12 ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2002-11-06 21:39 ` Florian Weimer
2002-10-23 14:57 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-10-23 17:56 ` Gerhard Mack
2002-10-24 9:38 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
[not found] ` <ap8f36$8ge$1@dstl.gov.uk>
2002-10-24 10:01 ` Tony Gale [this message]
2002-10-24 16:13 ` Gerhard Mack
2002-10-24 16:39 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2002-10-24 16:34 ` David Lang
2002-10-24 17:04 ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2002-10-25 9:44 ` Henning Schmiedehausen
2002-10-25 20:52 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-10-26 10:43 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2002-10-27 10:17 ` Rogier Wolff
2002-10-28 7:47 ` Chris Wedgwood
2002-10-24 22:02 ` Danny Lepage
2002-10-25 9:40 ` Henning Schmiedehausen
2002-10-24 14:23 ` Gilad Ben-ossef
2002-10-25 4:09 ` Stephen Satchell
2002-10-25 13:47 ` Stephen Frost
2002-10-26 10:38 ` Rogier Wolff
2002-10-26 9:44 ` Rogier Wolff
2002-10-26 10:46 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2002-10-23 16:23 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2002-10-23 17:55 ` David Lang
2002-10-23 19:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-10-23 22:15 ` James Stevenson
2002-10-24 9:47 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2002-10-25 12:28 ` Daniel Egger
2002-10-25 15:22 ` Alex Riesen
2002-10-25 16:38 ` Stephen Satchell
2002-10-25 18:21 ` [OT] " J Sloan
2002-10-26 10:40 ` OT " Rogier Wolff
2002-10-24 10:11 ` Ville Herva
2002-10-24 11:09 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2002-10-24 11:55 ` Alan Cox
2002-10-24 14:40 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2002-10-24 15:36 ` Alan Cox
2002-10-24 16:46 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-10-24 6:04 ` David Wagner
2002-10-23 21:49 Hank Leininger
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