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* Troubles with Sony PCG-C1MHP (crusoe based and ALIM 1533 drivers)
@ 2002-11-04 10:54 Manuel Serrano
  2002-11-04 12:50 ` Alan Cox
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Manuel Serrano @ 2002-11-04 10:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel, cjtsai, andre

Hello there,

I'm trying to install Linux on a Sony PCG-C1MHP (a Picturebook, which
are those very small computer equiped with Crusoe processor). Basically
I have a Debian running on this platform but I still have 5 problems.

I don't know exactly which is the best way to submit these bug reports
and to whom I should send the mails. For instance, I have found very little
support from Transmeta for running Linux on this computer. Please, feel
free to tell me who I should send these mails to and please feel free to
forward these mails to the one you think are the correct persons.

First of all, I'm not familiar with kernel development. I don't even
know precisely how an OS kernel such as the Linux kernel works. So, I 
apologize if I report incomplete or erroneous information. I will try
my best and of course:
   - I will be very happy to report for precise information.
   - I'm willing to help, as much as I can.

I will send 5 of these mails, each reporting about one problem. Here is
the first one, which is the most annoying one.

-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----

[1.] One line summary of the problem:
=====================================

The DMA support cannot be enabled for the harddisk

[2.] Full description of the problem/report:
============================================

As far as I have understood, this computer uses an ALi M1533 chip for 
controling the disk (even though, I must admit that I'm totally confused
between the reference "ALi M1533 PCI to ISA Bridge" and the 
reference "ALi M5229 IDE"). If I compile the kernel (version 2.4.18, 2.4.19,
2.4.20-pre10, and 2.4.20-rc1) enabling the M15x3 support, I always have the 
same problem: the machine does not boot. I can't send the actual error message
because the machine hangs without logging any message. However, I got
something that ends with a message such as:

-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----
ALI15X3: chipset revision 196
ALI15X3: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 80
ALI15X3: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----

Nothing more. At this point, the keyboard is ineffective. The only solution
is to switch off the computer.

On the web site: http://hale.org/~bhoward/issue_7/pcg-c1mrx.html, 
Bruce Howard reports a bug in the alim15x3.c kernel. I have tried to apply
his patch but this does not help. He also mention to boot the kernel with
the flags "ide2=0x180,0x386 pci=conf2". I don't think I understand the
meaning of these flags but what I'm sure about is that they don't help.

In conclusion, the only way I have to boot the machine is using the generic
IDE controler that works fine excepts that it does not support DMA for the
disk. In consequence, I have very poor disk performance.

Many thanks, in advance, for your help.

[3.] Keywords (i.e., modules, networking, kernel):
==================================================

Sony Picture book, Crusoe, IDE, ALIM 1533.c, DMA.

[4.] Kernel version (from /proc/version):
=========================================

owens:.../src/linux-2.4.20-rc1> cat /proc/version 
Linux version 2.4.20-rc1 (root@owens) (gcc version 2.95.4 20011002 (Debian prerelease)) #2 Mon Nov 4 09:47:32 CET 2002

[5.] Output of Oops.. message (if applicable) with symbolic information: 
========================================================================    

NA

[6.] A small shell script or example program which triggers the problem:
========================================================================

NA

[7.] Environment
================

Sony Picturebook PCG-C1MHP, Crusoe TM5800, ide disk IC25N030ATCS04-0
ATA/ATAPI IDE	: IDE PCI Bus Master ALi M5229

[7.1.] Software (add the output of the ver_linux script here):
==============================================================

owens:.../src/linux-2.4.20-rc1> sh scripts/ver_linux
If some fields are empty or look unusual you may have an old version.
Compare to the current minimal requirements in Documentation/Changes.
 
Linux owens 2.4.20-rc1 #2 Mon Nov 4 09:47:32 CET 2002 i686 Transmeta(tm) Crusoe(tm) Processor TM5800 GenuineTMx86 GNU/Linux
 
Gnu C                  2.95.4
Gnu make               3.79.1
util-linux             2.11u
mount                  2.11u
modutils               2.4.19
e2fsprogs              1.30-WIP
pcmcia-cs              3.2.1
Linux C Library        2.2.5
Dynamic linker (ldd)   2.2.5
Procps                 3.0.0
Net-tools              1.60
Console-tools          0.2.3
Sh-utils               4.5.2
Modules Loaded         sonypi trident ac97_codec soundcore ds yenta_socket pcmcia_core 8139too mii ospm_thermal ospm_battery ospm_ac_adapter ospm_busmgr usb-storage mousedev hid usb-ohci usbcore scsi_mod


[7.2.] Processor information (from /proc/cpuinfo):
==================================================

owens:.../src/linux-2.4.20-rc1> cat /proc/cpuinfo 
processor       : 0
vendor_id       : GenuineTMx86
cpu family      : 6
model           : 4
model name      : Transmeta(tm) Crusoe(tm) Processor TM5800
stepping        : 3
cpu MHz         : 860.140
cache size      : 512 KB
fdiv_bug        : no
hlt_bug         : no
f00f_bug        : no
coma_bug        : no
fpu             : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level     : 1
wp              : yes
flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr cx8 sep cmov mmx longrun lrti
bogomips        : 1703.93

[7.3.] Module information (from /proc/modules):
===============================================

owens:.../src/linux-2.4.20-rc1> cat /proc/modules 
sonypi                  7240   0
trident                25556   1 (autoclean)
ac97_codec              9640   0 (autoclean) [trident]
soundcore               3364   3 (autoclean) [trident]
ds                      6120   1
yenta_socket            8512   1
pcmcia_core            31840   0 [ds yenta_socket]
8139too                13448   1 (autoclean)
mii                     2176   0 (autoclean) [8139too]
ospm_thermal            5360   0 (unused)
ospm_battery            5364   0 (unused)
ospm_ac_adapter         1908   0 (unused)
ospm_busmgr            10932   0 [ospm_thermal ospm_battery ospm_ac_adapter]
usb-storage            20696   0 (unused)
mousedev                3672   1
hid                    17124   0 (unused)
usb-ohci               17032   0 (unused)
usbcore                53504   0 [usb-storage hid usb-ohci]
scsi_mod               88584   1 [usb-storage]

[7.4.] Loaded driver and hardware information (/proc/ioports, /proc/iomem):
===========================================================================

owens:.../src/linux-2.4.20-rc1> cat /proc/ioports 
0000-001f : dma1
0020-003f : pic1
0040-005f : timer
0060-006f : keyboard
0070-007f : rtc
0080-008f : dma page reg
00a0-00bf : pic2
00c0-00df : dma2
00f0-00ff : fpu
0170-017f : Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M5229 IDE
01f0-01ff : Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M5229 IDE
  01f0-01f7 : ide0
0376-0376 : Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M5229 IDE
03c0-03df : vga+
03f6-03f6 : Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M5229 IDE
  03f6-03f6 : ide0
0cf8-0cff : PCI conf1
1080-109f : Sony Programable I/O Device
1400-140f : Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M5229 IDE
1800-18ff : Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M5451 PCI AC-Link Controller Audio Device
  1800-18ff : ALi Audio Accelerator
1c00-1cff : Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M5457 AC-Link Modem Interface Controller
2000-20ff : PCI device 10cf:2011 (Citicorp TTI)
2400-24ff : Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+
  2400-24ff : 8139too
2800-28ff : ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M6 LY
4000-40ff : PCI CardBus #01
4400-44ff : PCI CardBus #01
8000-803f : Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M7101 PMU
8040-805f : Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M7101 PMU

owens:.../src/linux-2.4.20-rc1> cat /proc/iomem 
00000000-0009afff : System RAM
0009b000-0009ffff : reserved
000a0000-000bffff : Video RAM area
000c0000-000c7fff : Video ROM
000dc000-000dffff : reserved
000e0000-000e0fff : Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] USB 1.1 Controller (#2)
  000e0000-000e0fff : usb-ohci
000f0000-000fffff : System ROM
00100000-0eeeffff : System RAM
  00100000-001ecfb5 : Kernel code
  001ecfb6-002570bf : Kernel data
0eef0000-0eefbfff : ACPI Tables
0eefc000-0eefffff : ACPI Non-volatile Storage
0ef00000-0effffff : System RAM
10000000-10000fff : Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c475
10400000-107fffff : PCI CardBus #01
10800000-10bfffff : PCI CardBus #01
e8000000-e80fffff : Transmeta Corporation LongRun Northbridge
e8100000-e8100fff : Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M5451 PCI AC-Link Controller Audio Device
e8101000-e8101fff : Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M5457 AC-Link Modem Interface Controller
e8102000-e81027ff : Texas Instruments TSB43AB22/A IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (PHY/Link)
e8102800-e81028ff : Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+
  e8102800-e81028ff : 8139too
e8103000-e8103fff : Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] USB 1.1 Controller
  e8103000-e8103fff : usb-ohci
e8104000-e8107fff : Texas Instruments TSB43AB22/A IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (PHY/Link)
e8110000-e811ffff : ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M6 LY
e8200000-e82fffff : PCI device 10cf:2011 (Citicorp TTI)
f0000000-f7ffffff : ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M6 LY
fff80000-ffffffff : reserved

[7.5.] PCI information ('lspci -vvv' as root)
=============================================

owens:.../src/linux-2.4.20-rc1> sudo lspci -vv
00:00.0 Host bridge: Transmeta Corporation LongRun Northbridge (rev 02)
        Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 80ec
        Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
        Status: Cap- 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort+ >SERR- <PERR-
        Latency: 64
        Region 0: Memory at e8000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1M]

00:00.1 RAM memory: Transmeta Corporation SDRAM controller
        Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 80ec
        Control: I/O- Mem- BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
        Status: Cap- 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-

00:00.2 RAM memory: Transmeta Corporation BIOS scratchpad
        Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 80ec
        Control: I/O- Mem- BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
        Status: Cap- 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-

00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M5451 PCI AC-Link Controller Audio Device (rev 02)
        Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 80ec
        Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
        Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR+ <PERR+
        Latency: 64 (500ns min, 6000ns max)
        Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 9
        Region 0: I/O ports at 1800 [size=256]
        Region 1: Memory at e8100000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
        Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 2
                Flags: PMEClk- DSI+ D1+ D2+ AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2+,D3hot+,D3cold+)
                Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-

00:07.0 ISA bridge: Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M1533 PCI to ISA Bridge [Aladdin IV]
        Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 80ec
        Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle+ MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
        Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
        Latency: 0
        Capabilities: [a0] Power Management version 1
                Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
                Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-

00:08.0 Modem: Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M5457 AC-Link Modem Interface Controller (prog-if 00 [Generic])
        Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 80ec
        Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
        Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
        Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 9
        Region 0: Memory at e8101000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
        Region 1: I/O ports at 1c00 [size=256]
        Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2
                Flags: PMEClk- DSI+ D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot+,D3cold+)
                Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-

00:09.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB43AB22 1394a-2000 Controller (prog-if 10 [OHCI])
        Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 80ec
        Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
        Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
        Latency: 64 (750ns min, 1000ns max), cache line size 08
        Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 9
        Region 0: Memory at e8102000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=2K]
        Region 1: Memory at e8104000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
        Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2
                Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1+ D2+ AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0+,D1+,D2+,D3hot+,D3cold-)
                Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-

00:0a.0 Multimedia controller: Citicorp TTI: Unknown device 2011
        Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 80ec
        Control: I/O- Mem- BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
        Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
        Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 9
        Region 0: I/O ports at 2000 [disabled] [size=256]
        Region 1: Memory at e8200000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled] [size=1M]
        Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2
                Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
                Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-

00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C (rev 10)
        Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 80ec
        Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
        Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
        Latency: 128 (8000ns min, 16000ns max)
        Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 9
        Region 0: I/O ports at 2400 [size=256]
        Region 1: Memory at e8102800 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
        Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
                Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1+ D2+ AuxCurrent=375mA PME(D0-,D1+,D2+,D3hot+,D3cold+)
                Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-

00:0c.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M6 LY (prog-if 00 [VGA])
        Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 80ec
        Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping+ SERR- FastB2B-
        Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
        Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 9
        Region 0: Memory at f0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
        Region 1: I/O ports at 2800 [size=256]
        Region 2: Memory at e8110000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
        Expansion ROM at <unassigned> [disabled] [size=128K]
        Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
                Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1+ D2+ AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
                Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-

00:0f.0 USB Controller: Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] USB 1.1 Controller (rev 03) (prog-if 10 [OHCI])
        Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 80ec
        Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
        Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
        Latency: 64 (20000ns max), cache line size 08
        Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 9
        Region 0: Memory at e8103000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
        Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 2
                Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
                Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-

00:10.0 IDE interface: Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M5229 IDE (rev c4) (prog-if a0)
        Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 80ec
        Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
        Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
        Latency: 64 (500ns min, 1000ns max)
        Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 0
        Region 0: [virtual] I/O ports at 01f0 [size=16]
        Region 1: [virtual] I/O ports at 03f4
        Region 2: [virtual] I/O ports at 0170 [size=16]
        Region 3: [virtual] I/O ports at 0374
        Region 4: I/O ports at 1400 [size=16]
        Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 2
                Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
                Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-

00:11.0 Non-VGA unclassified device: Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M7101 PMU
        Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 80ec
        Control: I/O- Mem- BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
        Status: Cap- 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-

00:12.0 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c475 (rev 80)
        Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 80ec
        Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
        Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
        Latency: 168
        Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 9
        Region 0: Memory at 10000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
        Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=176
        Memory window 0: 10400000-107ff000 (prefetchable)
        Memory window 1: 10800000-10bff000
        I/O window 0: 00004000-000040ff
        I/O window 1: 00004400-000044ff
        BridgeCtl: Parity- SERR- ISA- VGA- MAbort- >Reset- 16bInt+ PostWrite+
        16-bit legacy interface ports at 0001

00:14.0 USB Controller: Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] USB 1.1 Controller (rev 03) (prog-if 10 [OHCI])
        Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 80ec
        Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
        Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
        Latency: 64 (20000ns max), cache line size 08
        Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 9
        Region 0: Memory at 000e0000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
        Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 2
                Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
                Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-

[7.6.] SCSI information (from /proc/scsi/scsi):
===============================================

owens:.../src/linux-2.4.20-rc1> cat /proc/scsi/scsi 
Attached devices: 
Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00
  Vendor: Sony     Model: MSC-U03          Rev: 1.00
  Type:   Direct-Access                    ANSI SCSI revision: 02

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Very sincerely,

-- 
Manuel Serrano

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Troubles with Sony PCG-C1MHP (crusoe based and ALIM 1533 drivers)
@ 2002-11-19  8:08 Manuel Serrano
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Manuel Serrano @ 2002-11-19  8:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel; +Cc: Alan Cox

Hello there,

First of all, I apologize for multiple copies. We have big troubles
with our local network and I have lost halt of my outgoing mails. I
have looked at the mailing list archive to check if my mail of yesterday
has reached the mailing and I have the impression that it has been
lost. So I re-post it today.

I have tried the new version of the 2.4-ac brand of Linux kernel on my
Sony Vaio PictureBook (equipped with a crusoe processor). That is, 
have tried 2.4.20-rc1-ac4. This version compiles but at boot time 
have a kernel panic. Here is a trace of the error (I apologize for the
typo, I have typed-in what was displayed on the screen).

-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----
ALI15x3: simplex device: DMA forced
ide1: bm-dma at 0x1400-0x140f, BIOS settings: hdc: DMA, hdd: DMA
blk: queue c029d6a0, I/O limit 4095MB (mask 0xffff..ff)
unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at vistual address 00000010
printing eip:Nc0107cab
*pde = 000000000N
Oops: 0000
CPU: 0
EIP: 0010:[<c0107cab>] no tainted
EFLAGS: 00010002
eax: 00000000 ebx: 00001fe0 ecx: 000000001 edx: 000000ff
esi: 00000212 edi: c029da4v ebp: 0000000ff esp: c1a13f64
s: 0018 es: 0018 ss: 0018
Process swapper (pid: 1, stackpage=c1a30000)
stack: 0000000ff 0000000001 ....
call Trace: [<c019ee85>] [<c019fa98>] [<c0105021>] [<c01054a9>]
code: 8b 40 10 ff d0 83 c4 04 56 9d 83 3d 84 dc 27 c0 00 75 0f 89
<0>kernel panic: Attempted to kill init
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I hope this mail will help. Many thanks for your help and for your work.
Very sincerely,

-- 
Manuel

ps: Just for the information, I included here a previous mail I have sent,
describing the problem I have with the main distribution of the kernel.

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[1.] One line summary of the problem:
=====================================

The DMA support cannot be enabled for the harddisk

[2.] Full description of the problem/report:
============================================

As far as I have understood, this computer uses an ALi M1533 chip for 
controling the disk (even though, I must admit that I'm totally confused
between the reference "ALi M1533 PCI to ISA Bridge" and the 
reference "ALi M5229 IDE"). If I compile the kernel (version 2.4.18, 2.4.19,
2.4.20-pre10, and 2.4.20-rc1) enabling the M15x3 support, I always have the 
same problem: the machine does not boot. I can't send the actual error message
because the machine hangs without logging any message. However, I got
something that ends with a message such as:

-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----
ALI15X3: chipset revision 196
ALI15X3: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 80
ALI15X3: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----

Nothing more. At this point, the keyboard is ineffective. The only solution
is to switch off the computer.

On the web site: http://hale.org/~bhoward/issue_7/pcg-c1mrx.html, 
Bruce Howard reports a bug in the alim15x3.c kernel. I have tried to apply
his patch but this does not help. He also mention to boot the kernel with
the flags "ide2=0x180,0x386 pci=conf2". I don't think I understand the
meaning of these flags but what I'm sure about is that they don't help.

In conclusion, the only way I have to boot the machine is using the generic
IDE controler that works fine excepts that it does not support DMA for the
disk. In consequence, I have very poor disk performance.

Many thanks, in advance, for your help.

[3.] Keywords (i.e., modules, networking, kernel):
==================================================

Sony Picture book, Crusoe, IDE, ALIM 1533.c, DMA.

[4.] Kernel version (from /proc/version):
=========================================

owens:.../src/linux-2.4.20-rc1> cat /proc/version 
Linux version 2.4.20-rc1 (root@owens) (gcc version 2.95.4 20011002 (Debian prerelease)) #2 Mon Nov 4 09:47:32 CET 2002

[5.] Output of Oops.. message (if applicable) with symbolic information: 
========================================================================    

NA

[6.] A small shell script or example program which triggers the problem:
========================================================================

NA

[7.] Environment
================

Sony Picturebook PCG-C1MHP, Crusoe TM5800, ide disk IC25N030ATCS04-0
ATA/ATAPI IDE	: IDE PCI Bus Master ALi M5229

[7.1.] Software (add the output of the ver_linux script here):
==============================================================

owens:.../src/linux-2.4.20-rc1> sh scripts/ver_linux
If some fields are empty or look unusual you may have an old version.
Compare to the current minimal requirements in Documentation/Changes.
 
Linux owens 2.4.20-rc1 #2 Mon Nov 4 09:47:32 CET 2002 i686 Transmeta(tm) Crusoe(tm) Processor TM5800 GenuineTMx86 GNU/Linux
 
Gnu C                  2.95.4
Gnu make               3.79.1
util-linux             2.11u
mount                  2.11u
modutils               2.4.19
e2fsprogs              1.30-WIP
pcmcia-cs              3.2.1
Linux C Library        2.2.5
Dynamic linker (ldd)   2.2.5
Procps                 3.0.0
Net-tools              1.60
Console-tools          0.2.3
Sh-utils               4.5.2
Modules Loaded         sonypi trident ac97_codec soundcore ds yenta_socket pcmcia_core 8139too mii ospm_thermal ospm_battery ospm_ac_adapter ospm_busmgr usb-storage mousedev hid usb-ohci usbcore scsi_mod


[7.2.] Processor information (from /proc/cpuinfo):
==================================================

owens:.../src/linux-2.4.20-rc1> cat /proc/cpuinfo 
processor       : 0
vendor_id       : GenuineTMx86
cpu family      : 6
model           : 4
model name      : Transmeta(tm) Crusoe(tm) Processor TM5800
stepping        : 3
cpu MHz         : 860.140
cache size      : 512 KB
fdiv_bug        : no
hlt_bug         : no
f00f_bug        : no
coma_bug        : no
fpu             : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level     : 1
wp              : yes
flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr cx8 sep cmov mmx longrun lrti
bogomips        : 1703.93

[7.3.] Module information (from /proc/modules):
===============================================

owens:.../src/linux-2.4.20-rc1> cat /proc/modules 
sonypi                  7240   0
trident                25556   1 (autoclean)
ac97_codec              9640   0 (autoclean) [trident]
soundcore               3364   3 (autoclean) [trident]
ds                      6120   1
yenta_socket            8512   1
pcmcia_core            31840   0 [ds yenta_socket]
8139too                13448   1 (autoclean)
mii                     2176   0 (autoclean) [8139too]
ospm_thermal            5360   0 (unused)
ospm_battery            5364   0 (unused)
ospm_ac_adapter         1908   0 (unused)
ospm_busmgr            10932   0 [ospm_thermal ospm_battery ospm_ac_adapter]
usb-storage            20696   0 (unused)
mousedev                3672   1
hid                    17124   0 (unused)
usb-ohci               17032   0 (unused)
usbcore                53504   0 [usb-storage hid usb-ohci]
scsi_mod               88584   1 [usb-storage]

[7.4.] Loaded driver and hardware information (/proc/ioports, /proc/iomem):
===========================================================================

owens:.../src/linux-2.4.20-rc1> cat /proc/ioports 
0000-001f : dma1
0020-003f : pic1
0040-005f : timer
0060-006f : keyboard
0070-007f : rtc
0080-008f : dma page reg
00a0-00bf : pic2
00c0-00df : dma2
00f0-00ff : fpu
0170-017f : Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M5229 IDE
01f0-01ff : Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M5229 IDE
  01f0-01f7 : ide0
0376-0376 : Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M5229 IDE
03c0-03df : vga+
03f6-03f6 : Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M5229 IDE
  03f6-03f6 : ide0
0cf8-0cff : PCI conf1
1080-109f : Sony Programable I/O Device
1400-140f : Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M5229 IDE
1800-18ff : Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M5451 PCI AC-Link Controller Audio Device
  1800-18ff : ALi Audio Accelerator
1c00-1cff : Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M5457 AC-Link Modem Interface Controller
2000-20ff : PCI device 10cf:2011 (Citicorp TTI)
2400-24ff : Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+
  2400-24ff : 8139too
2800-28ff : ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M6 LY
4000-40ff : PCI CardBus #01
4400-44ff : PCI CardBus #01
8000-803f : Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M7101 PMU
8040-805f : Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M7101 PMU

owens:.../src/linux-2.4.20-rc1> cat /proc/iomem 
00000000-0009afff : System RAM
0009b000-0009ffff : reserved
000a0000-000bffff : Video RAM area
000c0000-000c7fff : Video ROM
000dc000-000dffff : reserved
000e0000-000e0fff : Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] USB 1.1 Controller (#2)
  000e0000-000e0fff : usb-ohci
000f0000-000fffff : System ROM
00100000-0eeeffff : System RAM
  00100000-001ecfb5 : Kernel code
  001ecfb6-002570bf : Kernel data
0eef0000-0eefbfff : ACPI Tables
0eefc000-0eefffff : ACPI Non-volatile Storage
0ef00000-0effffff : System RAM
10000000-10000fff : Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c475
10400000-107fffff : PCI CardBus #01
10800000-10bfffff : PCI CardBus #01
e8000000-e80fffff : Transmeta Corporation LongRun Northbridge
e8100000-e8100fff : Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M5451 PCI AC-Link Controller Audio Device
e8101000-e8101fff : Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M5457 AC-Link Modem Interface Controller
e8102000-e81027ff : Texas Instruments TSB43AB22/A IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (PHY/Link)
e8102800-e81028ff : Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+
  e8102800-e81028ff : 8139too
e8103000-e8103fff : Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] USB 1.1 Controller
  e8103000-e8103fff : usb-ohci
e8104000-e8107fff : Texas Instruments TSB43AB22/A IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (PHY/Link)
e8110000-e811ffff : ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M6 LY
e8200000-e82fffff : PCI device 10cf:2011 (Citicorp TTI)
f0000000-f7ffffff : ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M6 LY
fff80000-ffffffff : reserved

[7.5.] PCI information ('lspci -vvv' as root)
=============================================

owens:.../src/linux-2.4.20-rc1> sudo lspci -vv
00:00.0 Host bridge: Transmeta Corporation LongRun Northbridge (rev 02)
        Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 80ec
        Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
        Status: Cap- 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort+ >SERR- <PERR-
        Latency: 64
        Region 0: Memory at e8000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1M]

00:00.1 RAM memory: Transmeta Corporation SDRAM controller
        Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 80ec
        Control: I/O- Mem- BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
        Status: Cap- 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-

00:00.2 RAM memory: Transmeta Corporation BIOS scratchpad
        Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 80ec
        Control: I/O- Mem- BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
        Status: Cap- 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-

00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M5451 PCI AC-Link Controller Audio Device (rev 02)
        Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 80ec
        Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
        Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR+ <PERR+
        Latency: 64 (500ns min, 6000ns max)
        Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 9
        Region 0: I/O ports at 1800 [size=256]
        Region 1: Memory at e8100000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
        Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 2
                Flags: PMEClk- DSI+ D1+ D2+ AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2+,D3hot+,D3cold+)
                Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-

00:07.0 ISA bridge: Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M1533 PCI to ISA Bridge [Aladdin IV]
        Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 80ec
        Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle+ MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
        Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
        Latency: 0
        Capabilities: [a0] Power Management version 1
                Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
                Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-

00:08.0 Modem: Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M5457 AC-Link Modem Interface Controller (prog-if 00 [Generic])
        Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 80ec
        Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
        Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
        Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 9
        Region 0: Memory at e8101000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
        Region 1: I/O ports at 1c00 [size=256]
        Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2
                Flags: PMEClk- DSI+ D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot+,D3cold+)
                Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-

00:09.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB43AB22 1394a-2000 Controller (prog-if 10 [OHCI])
        Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 80ec
        Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
        Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
        Latency: 64 (750ns min, 1000ns max), cache line size 08
        Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 9
        Region 0: Memory at e8102000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=2K]
        Region 1: Memory at e8104000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
        Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2
                Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1+ D2+ AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0+,D1+,D2+,D3hot+,D3cold-)
                Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-

00:0a.0 Multimedia controller: Citicorp TTI: Unknown device 2011
        Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 80ec
        Control: I/O- Mem- BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
        Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
        Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 9
        Region 0: I/O ports at 2000 [disabled] [size=256]
        Region 1: Memory at e8200000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled] [size=1M]
        Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2
                Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
                Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-

00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C (rev 10)
        Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 80ec
        Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
        Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
        Latency: 128 (8000ns min, 16000ns max)
        Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 9
        Region 0: I/O ports at 2400 [size=256]
        Region 1: Memory at e8102800 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
        Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
                Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1+ D2+ AuxCurrent=375mA PME(D0-,D1+,D2+,D3hot+,D3cold+)
                Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-

00:0c.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M6 LY (prog-if 00 [VGA])
        Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 80ec
        Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping+ SERR- FastB2B-
        Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
        Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 9
        Region 0: Memory at f0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
        Region 1: I/O ports at 2800 [size=256]
        Region 2: Memory at e8110000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
        Expansion ROM at <unassigned> [disabled] [size=128K]
        Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
                Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1+ D2+ AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
                Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-

00:0f.0 USB Controller: Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] USB 1.1 Controller (rev 03) (prog-if 10 [OHCI])
        Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 80ec
        Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
        Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
        Latency: 64 (20000ns max), cache line size 08
        Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 9
        Region 0: Memory at e8103000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
        Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 2
                Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
                Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-

00:10.0 IDE interface: Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M5229 IDE (rev c4) (prog-if a0)
        Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 80ec
        Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
        Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
        Latency: 64 (500ns min, 1000ns max)
        Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 0
        Region 0: [virtual] I/O ports at 01f0 [size=16]
        Region 1: [virtual] I/O ports at 03f4
        Region 2: [virtual] I/O ports at 0170 [size=16]
        Region 3: [virtual] I/O ports at 0374
        Region 4: I/O ports at 1400 [size=16]
        Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 2
                Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
                Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-

00:11.0 Non-VGA unclassified device: Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M7101 PMU
        Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 80ec
        Control: I/O- Mem- BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
        Status: Cap- 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-

00:12.0 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c475 (rev 80)
        Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 80ec
        Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
        Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
        Latency: 168
        Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 9
        Region 0: Memory at 10000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
        Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=176
        Memory window 0: 10400000-107ff000 (prefetchable)
        Memory window 1: 10800000-10bff000
        I/O window 0: 00004000-000040ff
        I/O window 1: 00004400-000044ff
        BridgeCtl: Parity- SERR- ISA- VGA- MAbort- >Reset- 16bInt+ PostWrite+
        16-bit legacy interface ports at 0001

00:14.0 USB Controller: Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] USB 1.1 Controller (rev 03) (prog-if 10 [OHCI])
        Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 80ec
        Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
        Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
        Latency: 64 (20000ns max), cache line size 08
        Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 9
        Region 0: Memory at 000e0000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
        Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 2
                Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
                Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-

[7.6.] SCSI information (from /proc/scsi/scsi):
===============================================

owens:.../src/linux-2.4.20-rc1> cat /proc/scsi/scsi 
Attached devices: 
Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00
  Vendor: Sony     Model: MSC-U03          Rev: 1.00
  Type:   Direct-Access                    ANSI SCSI revision: 02

-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----

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