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From: Joshua Schmidlkofer <kernel@pacrimopen.com>
To: "David B. Stevens" <dsteven3@maine.rr.com>
Cc: Helge Hafting <helgehaf@aitel.hist.no>,
	Jos Hulzink <josh@stack.nl>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: 2.7 (future kernel) wish
Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:51:36 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1072507896.27022.226.camel@menion.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3FECCAF9.7070209@maine.rr.com>

On Fri, 2003-12-26 at 15:57, David B. Stevens wrote:
> While I agree that the kernel should provide decent error handling and 
> reporting I still have to ask questions about what is reasonable.
> 
> What does that other OS do when you pull a USB stick out?  What do you 
> think the kernel should do?  Why don't the applications operating on the 
> data take better care of handling error conditions?
> 
> I don't have one here to try, but at some point the (ab)user needs to 
> take a bit of the heat for his or her action(s) or lack thereof.
> 
> After all you could just reach in your case and rip out the IDE or SCSI 
> cables.  Bet that leads to all kinds of stuff (tm).
> 
> Cheers,
>   Dave
> 
> 
> Helge Hafting wrote:
> 
> >On Tue, Dec 23, 2003 at 11:42:17PM +0100, Jos Hulzink wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>First of all... Compliments about 2.6.0. It is a superb kernel, with very few 
> >>serious bugs, and for me it runs stable like a rock from the very first 
> >>moment.
> >>
> >>As an end user, Linux doesn't give me a good feeling on one particular item 
> >>yet: Error handling. 
> >>
> >>What do I mean ? Well... for example: Pull out your USB stick with a mounted 
> >>fs on it. 
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >You aren't supposed to do that.  If you want to pull devices like that,
> >with no warning, access them in other ways than mounting.  
> >mtools are nice when you don't want to mount/umount floppies - a
> >similiar approach should work for usb sticks too.
> >
> >
> >
> >Helge Hafting
> >-
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Sometimes Windows 2k or XP dump (BSOD), or maybe you just get an error. 

-- 
VB programmers ask why no one takes them seriously, 
it's somewhat akin to a McDonalds manager asking employees 
why they don't take their 'career' seriously.


  reply	other threads:[~2003-12-27  6:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-12-23 22:42 Jos Hulzink
2003-12-26 23:38 ` Helge Hafting
2003-12-26 23:57   ` David B. Stevens
2003-12-27  6:51     ` Joshua Schmidlkofer [this message]
2003-12-28  3:03       ` Jim Crilly
2003-12-28  3:08         ` Kevin P. Fleming
2003-12-28  3:13           ` Rob Love
2003-12-28 11:17           ` Kevin Krieser
2003-12-28 11:23             ` Gaël Le Mignot
2003-12-28  3:11         ` Rob Love
2003-12-28  3:19           ` Jim Crilly
2004-01-04 21:05             ` Pat Erley
2003-12-28  3:57         ` Joshua Schmidlkofer
2003-12-28  4:33         ` Elladan
2003-12-30 14:20         ` Helge Hafting
2003-12-31  0:18           ` Jim Crilly
2003-12-30 15:41 Pacheco Jason NPRI
2003-12-30 16:18 ` mjt

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