From: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>
To: Matthias Urlichs <smurf@smurf.noris.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: NFS and kernel 2.6.x
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 11:15:47 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1082225747.2580.18.camel@lade.trondhjem.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <pan.2004.04.17.16.44.00.630010@smurf.noris.de>
On Sat, 2004-04-17 at 09:44, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
> Hi, Trond Myklebust wrote:
>
> > As for blanket statements like the above: I have seen no evidence yet
> > that they are any more warranted in 2.6.x than they were in 2.4.x.
>
> Oh, I saw the problem too: a slow client couldn't do full-size reads from
> a fast server because the buffer on the client's network card was just 8k.
Right, and this has always been a problem. I had the same issues when
doing 8k reads on one of my 75MHz Pentiums some 10 years ago. The thing
would more or less lock up and just pump out a constant stream of "time
exceeded" ICMP messages.
The NFS/RPC layer knows nothing about the existence of network cards or
their buffer sizes. Only about sockets and how to read from/write to
them.
This sort of issue is precisely why I'd prefer to see people use TCP by
default. UDP with it's dependency on fragmentation works fine on fast
setups with homogeneous lossless networks. It sucks as soon as you break
one of those conditions.
Cheers,
Trond
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Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-04-16 1:14 Charles Shannon Hendrix
2004-04-16 1:31 ` Trond Myklebust
2004-04-16 1:53 ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-16 2:54 ` Trond Myklebust
2004-04-16 4:59 ` Phil Oester
2004-04-16 5:29 ` Trond Myklebust
2004-04-16 7:13 ` Paul Wagland
2004-04-16 14:44 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-04-16 14:46 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-04-16 15:50 ` Trond Myklebust
2004-04-16 15:55 ` Dave Gilbert (Home)
2004-04-16 16:13 ` Trond Myklebust
2004-04-16 19:07 ` Daniel Egger
2004-04-17 4:56 ` Chris Friesen
2004-04-17 9:56 ` Daniel Egger
2004-04-17 5:24 ` Trond Myklebust
2004-04-17 14:15 ` Daniel Egger
2004-04-16 19:11 ` Charles Shannon Hendrix
2004-04-17 16:44 ` Matthias Urlichs
2004-04-17 18:15 ` Trond Myklebust [this message]
2004-04-17 18:32 ` Marc Singer
2004-04-17 18:58 ` Trond Myklebust
2004-04-17 19:01 ` Marc Singer
2004-04-17 19:09 ` Trond Myklebust
2004-04-17 19:19 ` Russell King
2004-04-18 2:51 ` Trond Myklebust
2004-04-19 16:39 ` Trond Myklebust
2004-04-19 21:10 ` Trond Myklebust
2004-04-17 22:22 ` Marc Singer
2004-04-18 0:57 ` Trond Myklebust
2004-04-18 5:01 ` Marc Singer
2004-04-18 6:36 ` Chris Friesen
2004-04-18 7:56 ` Russell King
2004-04-18 17:31 ` Marc Singer
2004-04-17 19:01 ` Daniel Egger
2004-04-17 20:22 ` Marc Singer
2004-04-18 11:14 ` Daniel Egger
2004-04-19 9:06 ` Helge Hafting
2004-04-16 9:03 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-16 15:55 ` Trond Myklebust
2004-04-16 18:48 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-16 19:06 ` Trond Myklebust
2004-04-16 19:39 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-17 22:32 ` Trond Myklebust
2004-04-18 3:26 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-18 7:03 ` Trond Myklebust
2004-04-18 23:22 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-19 15:38 ` Trond Myklebust
2004-04-19 16:19 ` Trond Myklebust
2004-04-20 0:09 ` Jamie Lokier
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2004-04-17 5:28 ` Trond Myklebust
2004-04-17 17:55 ` Charles Shannon Hendrix
2004-04-17 18:55 ` Trond Myklebust
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2004-04-16 20:31 ` Andi Kleen
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