Re: + pnp-mpu401-adjust-pnp_register_driver-signature.patch added to -mm tree

Re: + pnp-mpu401-adjust-pnp_register_driver-signature.patch added to -mm tree

[Eric W. Biederman]

akpm@osdl.org writes:

> The patch titled
>
>      pnp: mpu401: adjust pnp_register_driver signature
>
> has been added to the -mm tree.  Its filename is
>
>      pnp-mpu401-adjust-pnp_register_driver-signature.patch
>
> See http://www.zip.com.au/~akpm/linux/patches/stuff/added-to-mm.txt to find
> out what to do about this
>
>
> From: Bjorn Helgaas <bjorn.helgaas@hp.com>
>
> This series of patches removes the assumption that pnp_register_driver()
> returns the number of devices claimed.  Returning the count is unreliable
> because devices may be hot-plugged in the future.  (Many devices don't support
> hot-plug, of course, but PNP in general does.)

Huh?

How do onboard devices or ISA plug and play devices support hot-plug?

Or what devices supported by the pnp subsystem support hot-plug?

This may be a reasonable cleanup, but I'm worried about justifying it
with supporting hardware that does not exist.

Eric

Re: + pnp-mpu401-adjust-pnp_register_driver-signature.patch added to -mm tree

[Bjorn Helgaas]

>> This series of patches removes the assumption that pnp_register_driver()
>> returns the number of devices claimed.  Returning the count is
>> unreliable
>> because devices may be hot-plugged in the future.  (Many devices don't
>> support
>> hot-plug, of course, but PNP in general does.)
>
> Huh?
>
> How do onboard devices or ISA plug and play devices support hot-plug?
>
> Or what devices supported by the pnp subsystem support hot-plug?

I don't know for sure whether ISAPNP or PNPBIOS support hot-plug,
but ACPI does, and ACPI devices are being integrated into the
PNP subsystem via PNPACPI.

One example is HP sx2000 hardware that supports hot-plug of cells.
Each cell contains CPUs, memory, I/O bridges, and some miscellaneous
hardware like on-board serial devices.  All this stuff is described
by ACPI, and we'd like to use PNP drivers like 8250_pnp.c when we can.

Re: + pnp-mpu401-adjust-pnp_register_driver-signature.patch added to -mm tree

[Eric W. Biederman]

"Bjorn Helgaas" <bjorn.helgaas@hp.com> writes:

>>> This series of patches removes the assumption that pnp_register_driver()
>>> returns the number of devices claimed.  Returning the count is
>>> unreliable
>>> because devices may be hot-plugged in the future.  (Many devices don't
>>> support
>>> hot-plug, of course, but PNP in general does.)
>>
>> Huh?
>>
>> How do onboard devices or ISA plug and play devices support hot-plug?
>>
>> Or what devices supported by the pnp subsystem support hot-plug?
>
> I don't know for sure whether ISAPNP or PNPBIOS support hot-plug,
> but ACPI does, and ACPI devices are being integrated into the
> PNP subsystem via PNPACPI.
>
> One example is HP sx2000 hardware that supports hot-plug of cells.
> Each cell contains CPUs, memory, I/O bridges, and some miscellaneous
> hardware like on-board serial devices.  All this stuff is described
> by ACPI, and we'd like to use PNP drivers like 8250_pnp.c when we can.

Ok, hot plug of motherboards.  The pieces fall together now for me.

Most things controlled by isapnp are either cold plug or not even
pluggable (like most serial ports).  So imaging them in a hot-plug
situation takes some effort.  But node/cell based NUMA systems
where you plug and unplug motherboards.  That make sense.

Eric

Re: + pnp-mpu401-adjust-pnp_register_driver-signature.patch added to -mm tree

[Matthieu CASTET]

Hi,

Le Thu, 02 Mar 2006 17:55:47 -0700, Eric W. Biederman a écrit :

> Huh?
> 
> How do onboard devices or ISA plug and play devices support hot-plug?
> 
Imagine a laptop that can dock on a base station.
The laptop doesn't have midi, the base station have it.


> Or what devices supported by the pnp subsystem support hot-plug?
> 
For pnpacpi yes (maybe some code is still need).
For pnpbios there something for dock event IIRC.


Matthieu