From: Bernd Petrovitsch <bernd@firmix.at>
To: Kenneth Lavrsen <kenneth@lavrsen.dk>
Cc: Jesper Juhl <juhl-lkml@dif.dk>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-usb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: Summarizing the PWC driver questions/answers
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 01:01:19 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1093647676.17366.14.camel@gimli.at.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20040827233253.01c36210@inet.uni2.dk>
On Sat, 2004-08-28 at 00:08, Kenneth Lavrsen wrote:
> > I have boxes where I can't run the latest version
> >of AIX any more since the hardware is no longer supported, but you don't
> >see me ripping IBM's head off for that reason.
BTW Sun did similar things with Solaris somewhere aroung 2.6 IIRC.
> Ehhh????? No comment.
Why?
[...]
> Why not let the current driver be and then work on the alternative?
> Why is it so important that it is removed now?
Because the driver's maintainer wanted it.
> Linus indicated that since Nemosoft had asked for his driver to be removed
> noone else could take the sources as they are and add them again. So any
> altertive would be a start from scratch? Or did I misunderstand this?
Yes, anyone - including you - can take over the maintanance of the
GPL-part of driver. Even if the former maintainer does not like it.
> That can take years. So I cannot update my kernel for years?
> How many normal users knows even how to compile their own kernel?
> You guys on this list talk as if anyone knows how to write a kernel module.
> I think most of you have lost contact with the real users.
No, they complain all around all the time. I don't think one can loose
contact eeven if he wishes.
The point is: This is GPL software - either you do something, or someone
else does something or nothing is done. Whining doesn't help that much
compared to writing code.
> >And why is it you expect open source developers to assist in supporting
> >binary only drivers?
>
> I am just asking for you guys to not DESTROY what is already there without
> an alternative.
It is not destroyed, it is only in another place. Find it and put it
back whereever you need it.
Bernd
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-08-27 23:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-08-27 19:54 Kenneth Lavrsen
2004-08-27 20:14 ` [linux-usb-devel] " David Brownell
2004-08-27 20:22 ` David S. Miller
2004-08-27 20:30 ` David Ford
2004-08-27 21:26 ` Wouter Van Hemel
2004-08-27 22:07 ` [OT] " David Ford
2004-08-27 20:32 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-08-27 21:25 ` Jesper Juhl
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.61.0408272259450.2771@dragon.hygekrogen.localho st>
2004-08-27 22:08 ` Kenneth Lavrsen
2004-08-27 23:01 ` Bernd Petrovitsch [this message]
2004-08-27 23:13 ` [linux-usb-devel] " Oliver Neukum
2004-08-29 13:40 ` Alan Cox
2004-08-30 9:14 ` Craig Milo Rogers
2004-08-31 5:04 ` asterix the gual
2004-08-28 0:22 ` Paul Jakma
2004-08-28 15:55 ` [linux-usb-devel] " michel Xhaard
2004-08-30 12:04 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-08-28 21:07 linux
2004-08-28 22:06 ` Oliver Neukum
2004-08-27 16:26 Greg KH
2004-08-27 16:58 ` David Woodhouse
2004-08-27 18:26 ` Wouter Van Hemel
2004-08-27 19:05 ` Ian Romanick
2004-08-27 20:36 ` Wouter Van Hemel
2004-08-27 16:58 ` Prakash K. Cheemplavam
2004-08-27 17:54 ` Roman Zippel
2004-08-30 17:31 ` Brian Litzinger
2004-08-30 18:24 ` Jeff Kinz
2004-08-30 19:28 ` viro
2004-08-30 20:11 ` Kenneth Lavrsen
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