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From: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
To: hyoshiok@miraclelinux.com
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] [PATCH] cache pollution aware __copy_from_user_ll()
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 09:16:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1124090190.3228.3.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <98df96d30508142343407b4d61@mail.gmail.com>


> Anyway we could not find the cache aware version of __copy_from_user_ll
> has a big regression yet.


that is because you spread the cache misses out from one place to all
over the place, so that no one single point sticks out anymore.

Do you agree that your copy is less optimal for the case where the
kernel will (almost) immediately use the data? 

I agree that your copy is really nice for places where the kernel will
NOT use the data in the cpu, say for big write() system calls.

My suggestion is to realize there are basically 2 different use cases,
and that in the code the first one is very common, while in your
profiles the second one is very common. Based on that I suggest to make
a special copy_from_user_nocache() API for the cases where the kernel
will not use the data (and ignore software raid5 here) and use your
excellent version for that API, while leaving the code for the cases
where the kernel WILL use the data alone. Code wise the "will use" case
is the vast majority, so only changing the few places that know they
don't use the data will be very efficient, and will give immediate big
improvement in your profile data, since those few places tend to get
used a lot in the cases you benchmark.



  reply	other threads:[~2005-08-15  7:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-08-14  9:16 Hiro Yoshioka
2005-08-14  9:41 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-08-14 10:22   ` Hiro Yoshioka
2005-08-14 10:35     ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-08-14 10:45       ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-15  6:43       ` Hiro Yoshioka
2005-08-15  7:16         ` Arjan van de Ven [this message]
2005-08-15  8:44           ` Hiro Yoshioka
2005-08-15  8:53             ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-08-15 23:33               ` Hiro Yoshioka
2005-08-16  3:30                 ` Hiro Yoshioka
2005-08-16  4:17                   ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2005-08-16  4:54                     ` Hiro Yoshioka
2005-08-16  5:43                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-08-16 10:16                         ` Hiro Yoshioka
2005-08-16 10:19                           ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2005-08-16 10:25                           ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-08-16 10:24                             ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2005-08-16  5:44                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-08-16  5:49                   ` Arjan van de Ven
     [not found]                     ` <20050817.110503.97359275.taka@valinux.co.jp>
2005-08-17  5:10                       ` Hiro Yoshioka
2005-08-17 14:30                         ` Akira Tsukamoto
2005-08-17 15:27                           ` Akira Tsukamoto
2005-08-18 17:53                             ` Lee Revell
2005-08-18  2:37                           ` Akira Tsukamoto
2005-08-14 21:24 Ian Kumlien
2005-08-15  7:21 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-08-15 14:49   ` Ian Kumlien
2005-08-15 12:15 linux
2005-08-15 12:25 ` Arjan van de Ven
     [not found] <20050815121555.29159.qmail@science.horizon.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found] ` <1124108702.3228.33.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2005-08-15 15:02   ` Andi Kleen
2005-08-15 15:09     ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-08-15 15:13       ` Andi Kleen
     [not found] <20050816.131729.15816429.taka@valinux.co.jp.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found] ` <20050816.135425.719901536.hyoshiok@miraclelinux.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]   ` <1124171015.3215.0.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]     ` <20050816.191617.1025215458.hyoshiok@miraclelinux.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]       ` <1124187950.3215.31.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2005-08-16 13:15         ` Andi Kleen
2005-08-18 11:06           ` Hiro Yoshioka
2005-08-18 11:11             ` Hiro Yoshioka
2005-08-18 23:29               ` Hiro Yoshioka
2005-08-22  1:24                 ` Hiro Yoshioka
2005-08-22 13:07                   ` Andi Kleen
2005-08-22  2:43                 ` Hiro Yoshioka
2005-08-22 23:12                 ` Hiro Yoshioka
2005-08-24 14:11                   ` Hiro Yoshioka
2005-08-24 14:21                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-08-24 16:22                     ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2005-08-25  4:53                       ` Hiro Yoshioka
2005-08-16 18:09 Chuck Ebbert
2005-08-16 23:21 ` Hiro Yoshioka
2005-08-17  4:50   ` Hiro Yoshioka
2005-08-17 15:19 Chuck Ebbert
2005-08-18  9:45 ` Hiro Yoshioka
     [not found] <20050818.201138.607962419.hyoshiok@miraclelinux.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found] ` <98df96d30508181629d85edb5@mail.gmail.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]   ` <20050823.081246.846946371.hyoshiok@miraclelinux.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]     ` <20050824.231156.278740508.hyoshiok@miraclelinux.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2005-08-24 16:18       ` Andi Kleen
2005-08-25  4:54         ` Hiro Yoshioka
2005-09-01  9:07           ` Hiro Yoshioka
2005-09-01  9:36             ` Andi Kleen
2005-09-02  1:43               ` Hiro Yoshioka
2005-09-02  2:06                 ` Andi Kleen
2005-09-02  2:08                 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-02  2:17                   ` Andi Kleen
2005-09-02  2:28                     ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-02  3:41                       ` Hiro Yoshioka
2005-09-02  4:29             ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-02  4:37               ` Hiro Yoshioka
2005-09-03 11:59                 ` Hiro Yoshioka

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