From: john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>
To: Roman Zippel <zippel@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
George Anzinger <george@mvista.com>,
frank@tuxrocks.com, Anton Blanchard <anton@samba.org>,
benh@kernel.crashing.org, Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@us.ibm.com>,
Ulrich Windl <ulrich.windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC - 0/9] Generic timekeeping subsystem (v. B5)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 13:51:02 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1124830262.20464.26.camel@cog.beaverton.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0508230134210.3728@scrub.home>
On Tue, 2005-08-23 at 13:30 +0200, Roman Zippel wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Aug 2005, john stultz wrote:
>
> > The reason why we calculate the interval_length in the continuous
> > timesource case is because we are not assuming anything about the
> > frequency that the timekeeping_periodic_hook() is called.
>
> The problem with your patch is that it doesn't allow making such
> assumptions.
> Anyway, it's rather simple, if you want to update the time asynchronously:
>
> cycle_offset = get_cycles() - last_update;
>
> while (cycle_offset >= update_cycles) {
> cycle_offset -= update_cycles;
> last_update += update_cycles;
> // at init: system_update = update_cycles * mult;
> system_time += system_update;
> xtime += [tick_nsec, time_adj];
> }
Hmm. An issue cropped up when I started working on this: It seems its
prone to time inconsistencies.
One of the bug issues with my work is that we consistently accumulate
time in the exact same manner that we use it when calculating
gettimeofday.
That is:
gettimeofday():
xtime + cyc2ns(timesource, ntp_adj, cycle_delta)
periodic_hook():
interval = cyc2ns(timesource, ntp_adj, cycle_delta)
xtime += interval
...
Since we accumulate the entire interval using the same ntp_adjustment,
we ensure that time will not go briefly backwards around a call to
periodic_hook().
In the case above, you're accumulating in fixed cycle intervals. This
does avoid having to do the mult/shift combo each interrupt, however
since you do not accumulate the entire interval, and there is some
sub-tick remainder in cycle_offset. We have to ensure that that sub-tick
remainder is accumulated at the next interrupt using the same ntp
adjustment it would use in a call to gettimeofday() just prior to this
interrupt.
Not yet sure how to get around that issue. I'll keep working on it, and
maybe you might be able to shed some light on it?
thanks
-john
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-08-23 20:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-08-11 1:21 [RFC - 0/13] NTP cleanup work " john stultz
2005-08-11 1:23 ` [RFC][PATCH - 1/13] NTP cleanup: Move NTP code into ntp.c john stultz
2005-08-11 1:25 ` [RFC][PATCH - 2/13] NTP cleanup: Move arches to new ntp interfaces john stultz
2005-08-11 1:26 ` [RFC][PATCH - 3/13] NTP cleanup: Remove unused NTP PPS code john stultz
2005-08-11 1:27 ` [RFC][PATCH - 4/13] NTP cleanup: Breakup ntp_adjtimex() john stultz
2005-08-11 1:28 ` [RFC][PATCH - 5/13] NTP cleanup: Break out leapsecond processing john stultz
2005-08-11 1:28 ` [RFC][PATCH - 6/13] NTP cleanup: Clean up ntp_adjtimex() arguement checking john stultz
2005-08-11 1:31 ` [RFC][PATCH - 7/13] NTP cleanup: Cleanup signed shifting logic john stultz
2005-08-11 1:31 ` [RFC][PATCH - 8/13] NTP cleanup: Integrate second_overflow() logic john stultz
2005-08-11 1:33 ` [RFC][PATCH - 9/13] NTP cleanup: Improve NTP variable names john stultz
2005-08-11 1:33 ` [RFC][PATCH - 10/13] NTP cleanup: Use ntp_lock instead of xtime_lock john stultz
2005-08-11 1:35 ` [RFC][PATCH - 11/13] NTP cleanup: Introduce PPM adjustment variables john stultz
2005-08-11 1:36 ` [RFC][PATCH - 12/13] NTP cleanup: cleanup ntp_advance() adjtime code john stultz
2005-08-11 1:38 ` [RFC][PATCH - 13/13] NTP cleanup: drop time_phase and time_adj add copyright john stultz
2005-08-16 2:08 ` [RFC][PATCH - 4/13] NTP cleanup: Breakup ntp_adjtimex() john stultz
2005-08-11 2:13 ` [RFC - 0/9] Generic timekeeping subsystem (v. B5) john stultz
2005-08-11 2:14 ` [PATCH 1/9] Timesource management code john stultz
2005-08-11 2:16 ` [PATCH 2/9] Generic timekeeping core subsystem john stultz
2005-08-11 2:18 ` [PATCH 3/9] Generic timekeeping i386 arch specific changes, part 1 john stultz
2005-08-11 2:19 ` [PATCH 4/9] generic timekeeping i386 arch specific changes, part 2 john stultz
2005-08-11 2:20 ` [PATCH 5/9] generic timekeeping i386 arch specific changes, part 3 john stultz
2005-08-11 2:21 ` [PATCH 6/9] generic timekeeping i386 arch specific changes, part 4 john stultz
2005-08-11 2:23 ` [PATCH 7/9] generic timekeeping i386 arch specific changes, part 5 john stultz
2005-08-11 2:24 ` [PATCH 8/9] generic timekeeping i386 arch specific changes, part 6 john stultz
2005-08-11 2:25 ` [PATCH 9/9] generic timekeeping i386 specific timesources john stultz
2005-08-11 2:32 ` [RFC - 0/9] Generic timekeeping subsystem (v. B5) Lee Revell
2005-08-11 2:39 ` john stultz
2005-08-11 2:44 ` Lee Revell
2005-08-11 6:17 ` Ulrich Windl
2005-08-11 2:37 ` [RFC] Cumulative NTP cleanujp and generic timekeeping patch (v B5) john stultz
2005-08-15 22:14 ` [RFC - 0/9] Generic timekeeping subsystem (v. B5) Roman Zippel
2005-08-16 0:10 ` john stultz
2005-08-16 18:25 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-08-16 23:48 ` john stultz
2005-08-17 0:14 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-08-17 0:17 ` john stultz
2005-08-17 0:21 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-08-17 6:08 ` Ulrich Windl
2005-08-17 14:07 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-08-17 0:28 ` Roman Zippel
2005-08-17 1:17 ` john stultz
2005-08-17 7:40 ` Ulrich Windl
2005-08-19 0:27 ` Roman Zippel
2005-08-20 2:32 ` john stultz
2005-08-21 23:19 ` Roman Zippel
2005-08-22 18:57 ` john stultz
2005-08-23 11:30 ` Roman Zippel
2005-08-23 18:52 ` john stultz
2005-08-23 20:51 ` john stultz [this message]
2005-08-23 21:34 ` Roman Zippel
2005-08-23 23:14 ` john stultz
2005-08-23 23:54 ` Roman Zippel
2005-08-24 0:29 ` George Anzinger
2005-08-24 20:36 ` john stultz
2005-08-24 23:46 ` George Anzinger
2005-08-25 0:42 ` john stultz
2005-08-25 1:44 ` George Anzinger
2005-08-25 2:13 ` john stultz
2005-08-24 6:34 ` Ulrich Windl
2005-08-24 9:47 ` Roman Zippel
2005-08-24 18:00 ` john stultz
2005-08-24 18:48 ` Roman Zippel
2005-08-24 19:15 ` john stultz
2005-08-24 19:49 ` Roman Zippel
2005-08-24 22:40 ` john stultz
2005-08-25 0:45 ` Roman Zippel
2005-08-25 18:08 ` john stultz
2005-08-17 19:03 ` George Anzinger
2005-08-15 22:12 ` [RFC - 0/13] NTP cleanup work " Roman Zippel
2005-08-15 22:46 ` john stultz
2005-08-17 0:10 ` Roman Zippel
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