From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@engr.sgi.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu, akpm@osdl.org,
george@mvista.com, johnstul@us.ibm.com, paulmck@us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] ktimers subsystem
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 00:17:12 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1127168232.24044.265.camel@tglx.tec.linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0509191500040.27238@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>
On Mon, 2005-09-19 at 15:03 -0700, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 tglx@linutronix.de wrote:
>
> > sources. Another astonishing implementation detail of the current time
> > keeping is the fact that we get the monotonic clock (defined by POSIX as
> > a continous clock source which can not be set) by subtracting a variable
> > offset from the real time clock, which can be set by the user and
> > corrected by NTP or other mechanisms.
>
> The benefit or drawback of that implementation depends which time is more
> important: realtime or monotonic time. I think the most used time value is
> realtime and not monotonic time. Having the real time value in xtime
> saves one addition when retrieving realtime.
Thats only partially true.
Granted, the most used time in user space is clock_realtime
(gettimeofday() / clock_gettime(CLOCK_REALTIME).
But do we really want to discuss one add instruction ?
The most used time in kernel space is clock_monotonic.
Thats partially a result of the rather odd POSIX specs regarding
relative CLOCK_REALTIME timers.
Also the basic prerequisite for for high resolution timers is a fast and
simple access to clock_monotonic rather than to a backward corrected
clock_realtime representation.
Kernel code speed in hot pathes must have precedence over code executed
on behalf of userspace if its not completely out of bounds. One add/sub
is definitely not.
We should rather ask glibc people why gettimeofday() / clock_getttime()
is called inside the library code all over the place for non obvious
reasons.
tglx
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-09-19 22:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-09-19 16:48 tglx
2005-09-19 16:48 ` [PATCH] " tglx
2005-09-19 21:47 ` [ANNOUNCE] " Thomas Gleixner
2005-09-19 22:03 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-09-19 22:17 ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2005-09-19 22:24 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-09-19 22:44 ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-09-19 22:50 ` john stultz
2005-09-19 22:58 ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-09-19 23:04 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-09-19 23:12 ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-09-20 7:14 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-09-20 7:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-09-21 19:24 ` Pavel Machek
2005-09-19 22:39 ` Christopher Friesen
2005-09-19 22:54 ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-09-20 4:57 ` Christopher Friesen
2005-09-20 5:11 ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-09-20 0:43 ` George Anzinger
2005-09-21 19:50 ` Roman Zippel
2005-09-21 22:41 ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-09-22 12:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-09-22 23:09 ` Roman Zippel
2005-09-22 23:31 ` Christopher Friesen
2005-09-23 0:25 ` Roman Zippel
2005-09-23 6:49 ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-09-24 3:15 ` Roman Zippel
2005-09-24 5:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-09-24 10:35 ` Roman Zippel
2005-09-24 13:56 ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-09-24 16:51 ` Daniel Walker
2005-09-24 23:45 ` Roman Zippel
2005-09-25 21:00 ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-09-27 16:54 ` Roman Zippel
2005-09-27 19:03 ` Tim Bird
2005-09-28 16:36 ` Roman Zippel
2005-09-25 21:02 ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-09-27 16:48 ` Roman Zippel
2005-09-27 18:38 ` Tim Bird
2005-09-27 20:36 ` George Anzinger
2005-09-23 2:25 ` john stultz
2005-09-23 8:27 ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-09-24 2:43 ` Roman Zippel
2005-09-24 5:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-09-24 9:04 ` James Bruce
2005-09-23 15:21 ` Paul E. McKenney
2005-09-24 3:38 ` Roman Zippel
2005-09-25 15:48 Sid Boyce
2005-09-25 18:20 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2005-09-26 0:02 ` Sid Boyce
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