From: john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
discuss@x86-64.org
Subject: Re: [discuss] Re: [PATCH] x86-64: Fix bad assumption that dualcore cpus have synced TSCs
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 11:59:45 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1127242785.11080.20.camel@cog.beaverton.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050919194934.GC12810@verdi.suse.de>
On Mon, 2005-09-19 at 21:49 +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 12:42:16PM -0700, john stultz wrote:
> > On Mon, 2005-09-19 at 21:31 +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > > On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 12:16:43PM -0700, john stultz wrote:
> > > > This patch should resolve the issue seen in bugme bug #5105, where it
> > > > is assumed that dualcore x86_64 systems have synced TSCs. This is not
> > > > the case, and alternate timesources should be used instead.
> > >
> > >
> > > I asked AMD some time ago and they told me it was synchronized.
> > > The TSC on K8 is C state invariant, but not P state invariant,
> > > but P states always happen synchronized on dual cores.
> > >
> > > So I'm not quite convinced of your explanation yet.
> >
> > Would a litter userspace test checking the TSC synchronization maybe
> > shed additional light on the issue?
>
> Sure you can try it.
So, bugzilla.kernel.org has (temporarily at least) lost the reports from
yesterday, but from the email i got, folks using my TSC consistency
check that I posted were seeing what appears to be unsynched TSCs on
dualcore AMD systems.
Personally I suspect that the powernow driver is putting the cores
independently into low power sleep and the TSCs are being independently
halted, causing them to become unsynchronized.
Do you still feel there is some other issue here? Any ideas for shaking
out whatever else might in play?
thanks
-john
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-09-20 18:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-09-19 19:16 john stultz
2005-09-19 19:31 ` Andi Kleen
2005-09-19 19:42 ` john stultz
2005-09-19 19:49 ` [discuss] " Andi Kleen
2005-09-20 18:59 ` john stultz [this message]
2005-09-21 4:03 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-09-21 15:15 ` Ray Bryant
2005-09-21 15:04 ` Andi Kleen
2005-09-21 15:46 ` Ray Bryant
2005-09-22 8:00 ` Jonas Oreland
2005-09-21 20:17 ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-07 12:26 ` Vladimir B. Savkin
2005-10-07 12:31 ` Andi Kleen
2005-10-07 14:15 ` Vladimir B. Savkin
2005-10-07 14:21 ` [discuss] " Velu Erwan
2005-10-08 10:11 ` Vladimir B. Savkin
2005-10-10 18:03 ` john stultz
2005-10-10 18:12 ` Vladimir B. Savkin
2005-10-10 18:19 ` Jonas Oreland
2005-10-11 7:35 ` Vladimir B. Savkin
2005-10-11 8:06 ` Andi Kleen
2005-10-11 16:27 ` Jonas Oreland
2005-10-25 7:35 ` x86-64: Syncing dualcore cpus TSCs Jonas Oreland
2005-10-25 7:42 ` Andi Kleen
2005-10-26 0:05 ` David Lang
2005-09-20 19:13 [discuss] Re: [PATCH] x86-64: Fix bad assumption that dualcore cpus have synced TSCs Langsdorf, Mark
2005-09-20 19:24 ` Scott Lampert
2005-09-20 19:30 ` john stultz
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