From: john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: William Weston <weston@lysdexia.org>,
Rui Nuno Capela <rncbc@rncbc.org>,
george@mvista.com, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Fernando Lopez-Lezcano <nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>,
Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com>,
david singleton <dsingleton@mvista.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, cc@ccrma.Stanford.EDU
Subject: Re: 2.6.14-rc4-rt7
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 18:22:27 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1130376147.27168.381.camel@cog.beaverton.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1130375244.21118.91.camel@localhost.localdomain>
On Wed, 2005-10-26 at 21:07 -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Wed, 2005-10-26 at 17:45 -0700, john stultz wrote:
>
> > Ok, I've reproduced the issue.
> >
> > However, running a clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC) inconsistency check
> > results in no failures, but triggers this code in the kernel.
> >
> > Looking at the code, these may be false positives. The bit that is
> > complaining I believe Ingo added to get_monotonic_clock_ts() in
> > kernel/time/timeofday.c. However I don't see any locking that
> > serializes the writes the prev in the same order as the
> > get_monotonic_clock_ts is called.
> >
> > I'm still digging and will send out some mail when I figure out whats
> > wrong.
>
> Hmm, I'm wondering if these are a false positive. Being a fully
> preemptible kernel, we could be preempted between taking now and getting
> prev, so the prev could be updated to a time after now and show a warp.
>
> William and Rui, could you try this patch and see if you still get the
> warnings. Although I doubt this is really the problem, since I can't
> see how it would cause clusters of these messages.
I don't know if that would really fix it, because ideally you want to
read the prev_mono_time at the same point you calculate the time inside
the read lock'ed critical section.
The difficulty is then even if you do read the prev value in a
serialized manner, you have to serialize the writes properly as well. So
really you want to do all four operations (read prev, calculate time, do
comparision, write prev) under a write lock.
Again, I'm not totally sure about this, but even removing the part where
it overwrites the ts pointer w/ the prev time, I do not see
inconsistencies from userland.
Also I'm not seeing clusters of messages. If you call
clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC,..) in a loop, you'll see tons of these
message.
The only odd part is the regularness of the errors. I'm seeing the ~5000
ns deltas ~every ms. So there may be something going wrong, but I don't
see it yet.
thanks
-john
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Thread overview: 117+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-10-17 16:05 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Ingo Molnar
2005-10-17 17:06 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Mark Knecht
2005-10-17 19:21 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
2005-10-18 1:30 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
2005-10-18 1:50 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Mark Knecht
2005-10-18 6:54 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Ingo Molnar
2005-10-18 7:28 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Ingo Molnar
2005-10-18 14:11 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 K.R. Foley
2005-10-18 14:49 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Ingo Molnar
2005-10-18 21:04 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
2005-10-18 21:31 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 William Weston
2005-10-19 6:01 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Steven Rostedt
2005-10-19 11:19 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Ingo Molnar
2005-10-20 19:12 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
2005-10-20 19:16 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Ingo Molnar
2005-10-20 23:55 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
2005-10-21 8:05 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Ingo Molnar
2005-10-21 23:25 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
2005-10-22 0:20 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Mark Knecht
2005-10-22 3:41 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Ingo Molnar
2005-10-22 5:12 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Lee Revell
2005-10-22 23:25 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
2005-10-22 3:58 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Ingo Molnar
2005-10-24 19:28 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
2005-10-24 19:38 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
2005-10-24 19:46 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 john stultz
2005-10-25 9:17 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Antonio
2005-10-25 15:44 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Ingo Molnar
2005-10-25 15:58 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2005-10-25 17:35 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
2005-10-25 18:16 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 john stultz
2005-10-25 20:12 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 George Anzinger
2005-10-26 8:28 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Ingo Molnar
2005-10-26 16:03 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 George Anzinger
2005-10-26 17:17 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 George Anzinger
2005-10-26 20:45 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Rui Nuno Capela
2005-10-26 22:07 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 William Weston
2005-10-26 23:33 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 john stultz
2005-10-26 23:54 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 William Weston
2005-10-26 23:58 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Steven Rostedt
2005-10-27 0:11 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 john stultz
2005-10-27 0:34 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 William Weston
2005-10-26 23:57 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Steven Rostedt
2005-10-27 0:02 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 William Weston
2005-10-27 0:45 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 john stultz
2005-10-27 1:07 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Steven Rostedt
2005-10-27 1:22 ` john stultz [this message]
2005-10-27 1:37 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Steven Rostedt
2005-10-27 1:52 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 john stultz
2005-10-27 2:11 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Steven Rostedt
2005-10-27 22:01 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 William Weston
2005-10-27 22:32 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Steven Rostedt
2005-10-27 1:26 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Steven Rostedt
2005-10-27 8:01 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Rui Nuno Capela
2005-10-27 17:44 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Steven Rostedt
2005-10-27 23:18 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Rui Nuno Capela
2005-10-28 17:13 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
2005-11-03 22:13 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 - [PATCH] improved boot time TSC synchronization Jim Houston
2005-10-24 20:39 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Steven Rostedt
2005-10-24 21:00 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Lee Revell
2005-10-17 21:43 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Daniel Walker
2005-10-17 22:03 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Thomas Gleixner
2005-10-17 22:05 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Daniel Walker
2005-10-17 22:15 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Thomas Gleixner
2005-10-18 6:42 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Ingo Molnar
2005-10-18 16:23 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Daniel Walker
2005-10-18 20:26 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Ingo Molnar
2005-10-18 0:19 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Daniel Walker
2005-10-18 6:45 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Ingo Molnar
2005-10-20 19:54 ` 2.6.14-rc5-rt1 Ingo Molnar
2005-10-20 23:33 ` 2.6.14-rc5-rt1 Felix Oxley
2005-10-21 0:39 ` 2.6.14-rc5-rt1 Mark Knecht
2005-10-21 13:47 ` 2.6.14-rc5-rt1 Mark Knecht
2005-10-21 10:01 ` 2.6.14-rc5-rt1 Felix Oxley
2005-10-21 10:16 ` 2.6.14-rc5-rt1 Ingo Molnar
2005-10-21 10:18 ` 2.6.14-rc5-rt1 Felix Oxley
2005-10-21 10:26 ` 2.6.14-rc5-rt1 Felix Oxley
2005-10-22 23:23 ` 2.6.14-rc5-rt1 Felix Oxley
2005-10-24 22:28 ` [ANNOUNCE] 2.6.14-rc5-rt5 kgdb update George Anzinger
2005-11-12 15:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-11-12 15:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-11-12 16:10 ` George Anzinger
2005-10-30 13:33 ` 2.6.14-rt1 Ingo Molnar
2005-10-30 14:58 ` 2.6.14-rt1 K.R. Foley
2005-10-30 15:41 ` 2.6.14-rt1 Steven Rostedt
2005-10-30 17:17 ` 2.6.14-rt1 Ingo Molnar
2005-10-30 17:19 ` 2.6.14-rt1 Ingo Molnar
2005-10-30 16:30 ` 2.6.14-rt1 Mark Knecht
2005-10-31 18:13 ` 2.6.14-rt1 Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
2005-11-01 20:18 ` 2.6.14-rt1 Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
2005-11-02 2:47 ` 2.6.14-rt1 Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
2005-11-02 2:55 ` 2.6.14-rt1 Carlos Antunes
2005-11-02 3:05 ` 2.6.14-rt1 Steven Rostedt
2005-11-02 3:26 ` 2.6.14-rt1 Carlos Antunes
2005-11-02 3:32 ` 2.6.14-rt1 Steven Rostedt
2005-11-02 3:36 ` 2.6.14-rt1 Carlos Antunes
2005-11-02 4:05 ` 2.6.14-rt1 Carlos Antunes
2005-11-02 9:21 ` 2.6.14-rt1 Florian Schmidt
2005-11-02 14:35 ` 2.6.14-rt1 Carlos Antunes
2005-11-02 14:40 ` 2.6.14-rt1 Ingo Molnar
2005-11-02 14:45 ` 2.6.14-rt1 Carlos Antunes
2005-11-02 15:37 ` 2.6.14-rt1 Steven Rostedt
2005-11-02 16:07 ` 2.6.14-rt1 Carlos Antunes
2005-11-02 16:24 ` 2.6.14-rt1 Steven Rostedt
2005-11-02 16:53 ` 2.6.14-rt1 Carlos Antunes
2005-11-02 16:37 ` 2.6.14-rt1 Steven Rostedt
2005-11-02 18:13 ` 2.6.14-rt1 Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
2005-11-02 7:02 ` 2.6.14-rt1 Ingo Molnar
2005-11-02 18:13 ` 2.6.14-rt1 Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
2005-11-04 7:04 ` 2.6.14-rt1 Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
2005-11-02 21:41 ` 2.6.14-rt4: __get_nsec_offset() false positives john stultz
2005-11-03 6:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-11-05 2:35 ` 2.6.14-rt1 (now rt6) Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
2005-11-05 3:46 ` Mark Knecht
2005-11-09 11:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-11-10 12:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-11-10 22:10 ` Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
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