From: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: dhowells@redhat.com, Andreas Dilger <adilger@dilger.ca>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] statx: Add a system call to make enhanced file info available
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2016 22:54:02 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <11317.1479509642@warthog.procyon.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161118220744.GC31101@dastard>
Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com> wrote:
> And when we start thinking in those timeframes, an
> increase in timestamp resoultion of at least another 10e-3 is
> likely....
Is it, though? To be useful, surely you have to be able to jam quite a few
instructions into a 1ns block, including memory accesses.
Rather than providing:
struct timestamp {
__s64 seconds;
__s64 femtoseconds;
};
which would require 64-bit divisions to get nanosecond timestamps that we do
actually use, I would lean towards:
struct timestamp {
__s64 seconds;
__s32 nanoseconds;
__s32 femtoseconds;
};
where the fields are, in effect, additive. Which means I could represent this
as:
__s64 stx_atime_s; /* Last access time */
__s64 stx_btime_s; /* File creation time */
__s64 stx_ctime_s; /* Last attribute change time */
__s64 stx_mtime_s; /* Last data modification time */
__s32 stx_atime_ns; /* Last access time (ns part) */
__s32 stx_btime_ns; /* File creation time (ns part) */
__s32 stx_ctime_ns; /* Last attribute change time (ns part) */
__s32 stx_mtime_ns; /* Last data modification time (ns part) */
and then add:
__s32 stx_atime_fs; /* Last access time (fs part) */
__s32 stx_btime_fs; /* File creation time (fs part) */
__s32 stx_ctime_fs; /* Last attribute change time (fs part) */
__s32 stx_mtime_fs; /* Last data modification time (fs part) */
later.
If we *really* do want to allow for atto- or femto- second resolution
timestamps (and you've still not entirely convinced me that it's going to be
necessary - the speed of signal propagation still has an ungetroundable
limit), then we could stick the space in now - but I think it's likely to
remain dead space.
Maybe we should switch to Windows-style timestamp resolution:
struct timestamp {
__s64 hundred_ns; /* Time in 100ns increments */
__s32 femtoseconds; /* Additional fs component */
};
> > Using the existing FS_*_FL flags as initial values is not worse than
> > starting with any other arbitrary values for the flags.
>
> Except it starts with a sparse set of flags for no good reason.
Actually, a very good reason. You can map those flags, on ext4 at least, with
a load, an AND and an OR. Three instructions[*]. If the bits don't
correspond, it gets more expensive (4-5 instructions per bit + 1).
[*] Leastways, it *should* be three instructions, but gcc fails to optimise it
correctly. I have a bz logged for this.
David
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-11-18 22:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-11-17 13:34 [RFC][PATCH 0/4] Enhanced file stat system call David Howells
2016-11-17 13:35 ` [PATCH 1/4] statx: Add a system call to make enhanced file info available David Howells
2016-11-17 18:39 ` Jeff Layton
2016-11-18 2:32 ` Andreas Dilger
2016-11-18 8:59 ` David Howells
2016-11-18 9:25 ` Andreas Dilger
2016-11-17 23:40 ` Dave Chinner
2016-11-18 3:28 ` Andreas Dilger
2016-11-18 22:07 ` Dave Chinner
2016-11-18 22:54 ` David Howells [this message]
2016-11-19 22:43 ` Dave Chinner
2016-11-21 14:30 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-11-21 20:43 ` Dave Chinner
2016-11-22 10:39 ` David Howells
2016-11-22 13:55 ` Jeff Layton
2016-11-22 20:58 ` Dave Chinner
2016-11-18 9:53 ` David Howells
2016-11-18 8:48 ` David Howells
2016-11-18 12:01 ` Jeff Layton
2016-11-18 9:36 ` David Howells
2016-11-18 17:17 ` Jeff Layton
2016-11-18 18:04 ` David Howells
2016-11-18 18:54 ` Jeff Layton
2016-11-18 19:08 ` David Howells
2016-11-18 9:43 ` David Howells
2016-11-18 21:41 ` Dave Chinner
2016-11-18 22:24 ` David Howells
2016-11-18 10:29 ` David Howells
2016-11-18 21:27 ` Dave Chinner
2016-11-18 21:48 ` David Howells
2016-11-18 22:17 ` Dave Chinner
2016-11-19 10:21 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-11-17 13:35 ` [PATCH 2/4] statx: Ext4: Return enhanced file attributes David Howells
2016-11-18 3:30 ` Andreas Dilger
2016-11-17 13:35 ` [PATCH 3/4] statx: NFS: " David Howells
2016-11-17 13:35 ` [PATCH 4/4] statx: AFS: " David Howells
2016-11-18 3:34 ` Andreas Dilger
2016-11-18 8:47 ` David Howells
2016-11-17 14:39 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/4] Enhanced file stat system call One Thousand Gnomes
2016-11-17 15:10 ` Michael Kerrisk
2016-11-17 16:33 ` David Howells
2016-11-17 16:45 ` David Howells
2016-11-17 20:00 ` J. Bruce Fields
2016-11-18 2:30 ` Andreas Dilger
2016-11-18 4:29 ` NeilBrown
2016-11-18 13:41 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-11-18 13:49 ` David Howells
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