From: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
To: One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: dhowells@redhat.com, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/4] Enhanced file stat system call
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2016 16:45:45 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <15516.1479401145@warthog.procyon.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161117143904.4ae757b4@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> wrote:
> > (2) Lightweight stat (AT_STATX_DONT_SYNC): Ask for just those details of
> > interest, and allow a network fs to approximate anything not of
> > interest, without going to the server.
> >
> > (3) Heavyweight stat (AT_STATX_FORCE_SYNC): Force a network fs to flush
> > buffers and go to the server, even if it thinks its cached attributes
> > are up to date.
>
> That seems an odd way to do it. Wouldn't it be cleaner and more flexible
> to give a timestamp of the oldest time you consider acceptable (and
> obviously passing 0 indicates whatever you have)
Perhaps, though adding 6-argument syscalls is apparently frowned upon.
> > Note that no lstat() equivalent is required as that can be implemented
> > through statx() with atflag == 0. There is also no fstat() equivalent as
> > that can be implemented through statx() with filename == NULL and the
> > relevant fd passed as dfd.
>
> and dfd + a name gives you fstatat() ?
Yes.
> The cover note could be clearer on this.
Fixed.
> Should the fields really be split the way they are for times rather than
> a struct for each one so you can write code generically to handle one of
> those rather than having to have a 4 way switch statement all the time.
It depends. Doing so leaves 16 bytes of hole in the structure. I could
ameliorate the wastage by using a union to overlay useful fields in the gaps,
but that's pretty icky and might be compiler dependent.
> Another attribute that would be nice (but migt need some trivial device
> layer tweaking) would be STATX_ATTR_VOLATILE for filesystems that will
> probably evaporate on a reboot. That's useful information for tools like
> installers and also for sanity checking things like backup paths.
There's a FILE_ATTRIBUTE_TEMPORARY that I could map for windows filesystems
that could be used with this.
> Remote needs to have clear semantics: is ext4fs over nbd 'remote' for
> example ?
Hmmm... Interesting question. Probably should. But you could be insane and
RAID an nbd and a local disk. Further, does NFS over a loopback device to
nfsd on the same machine qualify as root? What if that's exposing a local fs
on NBD? Perhaps I should drop 'REMOTE' for now. It sounds like something
that a GUI filemanager might find interesting, though.
David
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-11-17 17:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-11-17 13:34 David Howells
2016-11-17 13:35 ` [PATCH 1/4] statx: Add a system call to make enhanced file info available David Howells
2016-11-17 18:39 ` Jeff Layton
2016-11-18 2:32 ` Andreas Dilger
2016-11-18 8:59 ` David Howells
2016-11-18 9:25 ` Andreas Dilger
2016-11-17 23:40 ` Dave Chinner
2016-11-18 3:28 ` Andreas Dilger
2016-11-18 22:07 ` Dave Chinner
2016-11-18 22:54 ` David Howells
2016-11-19 22:43 ` Dave Chinner
2016-11-21 14:30 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-11-21 20:43 ` Dave Chinner
2016-11-22 10:39 ` David Howells
2016-11-22 13:55 ` Jeff Layton
2016-11-22 20:58 ` Dave Chinner
2016-11-18 9:53 ` David Howells
2016-11-18 8:48 ` David Howells
2016-11-18 12:01 ` Jeff Layton
2016-11-18 9:36 ` David Howells
2016-11-18 17:17 ` Jeff Layton
2016-11-18 18:04 ` David Howells
2016-11-18 18:54 ` Jeff Layton
2016-11-18 19:08 ` David Howells
2016-11-18 9:43 ` David Howells
2016-11-18 21:41 ` Dave Chinner
2016-11-18 22:24 ` David Howells
2016-11-18 10:29 ` David Howells
2016-11-18 21:27 ` Dave Chinner
2016-11-18 21:48 ` David Howells
2016-11-18 22:17 ` Dave Chinner
2016-11-19 10:21 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-11-17 13:35 ` [PATCH 2/4] statx: Ext4: Return enhanced file attributes David Howells
2016-11-18 3:30 ` Andreas Dilger
2016-11-17 13:35 ` [PATCH 3/4] statx: NFS: " David Howells
2016-11-17 13:35 ` [PATCH 4/4] statx: AFS: " David Howells
2016-11-18 3:34 ` Andreas Dilger
2016-11-18 8:47 ` David Howells
2016-11-17 14:39 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/4] Enhanced file stat system call One Thousand Gnomes
2016-11-17 15:10 ` Michael Kerrisk
2016-11-17 16:33 ` David Howells
2016-11-17 16:45 ` David Howells [this message]
2016-11-17 20:00 ` J. Bruce Fields
2016-11-18 2:30 ` Andreas Dilger
2016-11-18 4:29 ` NeilBrown
2016-11-18 13:41 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-11-18 13:49 ` David Howells
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