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From: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>
To: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Cc: chrisw@osdl.org, matthew@wil.cx, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: DoS with POSIX file locks?
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 13:16:41 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1142965001.7987.70.camel@lade.trondhjem.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1FLl7L-0002u9-00@dorka.pomaz.szeredi.hu>

On Tue, 2006-03-21 at 18:58 +0100, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> > > Apps using LinuxThreads seem to be candidates:
> > > 
> > >      According to POSIX 1003.1c, a successful `exec*' in one of the
> > >      threads should automatically terminate all other threads in the
> > >      program.  This behavior is not yet implemented in LinuxThreads.
> > >      Calling `pthread_kill_other_threads_np' before `exec*' achieves
> > >      much of the same behavior, except that if `exec*' ultimately
> > >      fails, then all other threads are already killed.
> > > 
> > > steal_locks() was probably added as a workaround for this case, no?
> > 
> > Possibly, but LinuxThreads were never really POSIX thread compliant
> > anyway. Anyhow, the problem isn't really LinuxThreads, it is rather that
> > the existence of the standalone CLONE_FILES flag allows you to do a lot
> > of weird inheritance crap with 'posix locks' that the POSIX standards
> > committees never even had to consider.
> 
> Yes.  The execve-with-multiple-threads/posix-locks interaction is not
> documented for LinuxThreads but removing steal_locks() makes that
> implementation slighly differently incompatible to POSIX.  Some
> application _might_ be relying on the current behavior.

That really doesn't matter: the current behaviour isn't ever going to
work for some of the most commonly used Linux filesystems out there.
IOW: Such an application isn't even going to be portable from one Linux
installation to another.

Cheers,
  Trond


  reply	other threads:[~2006-03-21 18:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-03-20 11:41 Miklos Szeredi
2006-03-20 12:11 ` Matthew Wilcox
2006-03-20 12:19   ` Miklos Szeredi
2006-03-20 12:39     ` Matthew Wilcox
2006-03-20 12:52       ` Miklos Szeredi
2006-03-20 13:13         ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-03-20 13:24           ` Miklos Szeredi
2006-03-20 13:30             ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-03-20 13:39               ` Miklos Szeredi
2006-03-20 15:32         ` Matthew Wilcox
2006-03-20 16:41           ` Miklos Szeredi
2006-03-20 20:35             ` J. Bruce Fields
2006-03-21  6:38               ` Miklos Szeredi
2006-03-20 18:22           ` Trond Myklebust
2006-03-21  9:44             ` Miklos Szeredi
2006-03-21 17:28               ` Trond Myklebust
2006-03-21 17:58                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2006-03-21 18:16                   ` Trond Myklebust [this message]
2006-03-21 19:16                   ` Chris Wright
2006-03-22  6:21                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2006-03-22 11:12                       ` Trond Myklebust
2006-03-22 12:16                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2006-03-22 15:56                           ` Trond Myklebust
2006-03-22 16:34                             ` Miklos Szeredi
2006-03-22 20:07                               ` Trond Myklebust
2006-03-22 20:19                                 ` Miklos Szeredi

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