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From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, sam@ravnborg.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] 'make headers_install' kbuild target.
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 13:48:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1145710123.11909.241.camel@pmac.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060422123835.GA5010@stusta.de>

On Sat, 2006-04-22 at 14:38 +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> What was the recommended way for getting userspace header at last
> year's kernel summit?

It was said that we need _incremental_ changes, and this is an attempt
to satisfy that request.

> > The important thing is that we all get our editors out and clean up the
> > _contents_ our own headers, and actually start to _think_ about the
> > visibility of any new header-file content we introduce. Let's not
> > concentrate too much on the implementation details of how we actually
> > get those to userspace.
> 
> Currently, it's said the kernel headers aren't suitable for userspace.

Indeed they aren't.

> After the cleanups you propose, the kernel headers will be suitable for 
> userspace (the copy steps you propose are not required, distributions 
> could equally start to copy the verbatim headers again).

After the _first_ stage of the cleanups I propose, the export step will
still be necessary. You'll need to pick those headers which are intended
to be user-visible, and leave behind those which are not. 

If we actually go on to abolish __KERNEL__ and move the public headers
to a separate directory, you're right -- as I said, one day hopefully
it'll just be 'cp -a'. But that is not the _first_ stage. We need to do
this incrementally.

> If everyone is working in a different direction, this is only wasting 
> work.

The stated plan is to start with a simple export mechanism which lets us
see the mess we have at the moment and work on the _real_ problem -- the
actual contents of the headers. Then to proceed towards the goal you
stated, which is what we wanted all along.

Who would be working in a different direction? 

-- 
dwmw2


  reply	other threads:[~2006-04-22 19:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-04-22  2:17 David Woodhouse
2006-04-22  9:33 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-04-22 12:03   ` David Woodhouse
2006-04-22 12:38     ` Adrian Bunk
2006-04-22 12:48       ` David Woodhouse [this message]
2006-04-22 13:20         ` Adrian Bunk
2006-04-22 13:36           ` David Woodhouse
2006-04-22 14:11             ` Adrian Bunk
2006-04-22 14:26               ` David Woodhouse
2006-04-22 14:44                 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-04-22 14:56                   ` David Woodhouse
2006-04-22 15:30           ` David Woodhouse
2006-04-22 21:13             ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-04-23  7:09               ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-04-23 16:51                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-04-23 17:00                 ` Joshua Hudson
2006-04-22 14:14     ` Sam Ravnborg
2006-04-22 14:20       ` Adrian Bunk
2006-04-22 14:28         ` Sam Ravnborg
2006-04-22 14:47           ` David Woodhouse
2006-04-22 14:50           ` Adrian Bunk
2006-04-28 18:15             ` Rob Landley
2006-04-28 18:27               ` David Woodhouse
2006-04-28 19:59                 ` Rob Landley
2006-04-22 14:35         ` David Woodhouse
2006-04-23 20:47 ` David Woodhouse
2006-04-24  0:12 ` David Woodhouse
2006-04-28 18:13 ` Rob Landley
2006-04-28 18:22   ` David Woodhouse

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