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From: Bernd Petrovitsch <bernd@firmix.at>
To: Ian Stirling <ian.stirling@mauve.plus.com>
Cc: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Patrick McFarland <diablod3@gmail.com>,
	Anonymous User <anonymouslinuxuser@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: GPL Violation?
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:53:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1155891183.22201.32.camel@tara.firmix.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44E4FF89.3080500@mauve.plus.com>

On Fri, 2006-08-18 at 00:45 +0100, Ian Stirling wrote:
[...]
> With the appropriate disclaimers on the box, it cannot function
> incorrectly, as you will know that the  thumb-print reader won't

Providing that a judge doesn't rule otherwise in court based on local
laws. And judges rule (most of the time) also based on common sense
(e.g. if you buy a copy-protected music CD/DVD and you cannot play it on
an ordinary CD/DVD player, the CD/DVD is "broken" and must be replaced
by the shop where you bought it or you get your money back returning the
defective CD/DVD).
And yes, there are (lots of other) issues you can't legally remove with
any disclaimer (at least in .at - and probably more continental European
countries).

> work if you upgrade the kernel, and if you intend to do so,
> you don't buy.

If you tamper with the product "as you like" (read: in unintended ways,
not through officially available interfaces, etc.), there are IMHO
(in .at) no disclaimers necessary - the producer has no responsibility
any more from the moment you start tampering.

	Bernd
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-08-18  8:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-08-17  5:48 Anonymous User
2006-08-17  6:14 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-08-17  9:38   ` Ben B
2006-08-17 12:02     ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-08-17 16:11       ` Stefan Richter
2006-08-17 19:21   ` James Courtier-Dutton
2006-08-17 23:26     ` Ian Stirling
     [not found]       ` <20060817193540.dc819396.seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
2006-08-17 23:35         ` Sean
2006-08-18  0:32       ` Alan Cox
2006-08-18  7:23       ` Xavier Bestel
2006-08-18 12:23         ` Ian Stirling
2006-08-18  9:04       ` Helge Hafting
2006-08-17  6:42 ` Patrick McFarland
2006-08-17  6:54   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-08-17  7:32     ` Patrick McFarland
2006-08-17  8:02       ` Adrian Bunk
2006-08-17  9:03         ` Patrick McFarland
2006-08-18 17:56           ` Adrian Bunk
2006-08-17 12:39         ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2006-08-17 13:41           ` Alan Cox
2006-08-17 13:31             ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2006-08-17 15:52               ` Theodore Tso
2006-08-18  2:03             ` Chase Venters
2006-08-17  8:32   ` Stefan Richter
2006-08-17  9:36     ` Patrick McFarland
2006-08-17 11:25       ` Alan Cox
2006-08-17 11:48         ` Neil Brown
2006-08-17  9:37   ` David Woodhouse
2006-08-17 23:45     ` Ian Stirling
2006-08-18  8:28       ` David Woodhouse
2006-08-18 12:52         ` Ian Stirling
2006-08-18  8:53       ` Bernd Petrovitsch [this message]
2006-08-18  9:04         ` David Woodhouse
2006-08-18  9:15           ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-08-20 22:05     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2006-08-20 22:20       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-08-18  9:51   ` David Schwartz
2006-08-18 16:52     ` Alan Cox
2006-08-18 22:42       ` David Schwartz
2006-08-19 10:48         ` David Greaves
2006-08-19 16:29           ` Patrick McFarland
2006-08-19 17:28             ` David Greaves
2006-08-19 11:30         ` Helge Hafting
2006-08-19 15:44           ` Michael Buesch
2006-08-19 23:01           ` David Schwartz
2006-08-20  3:20           ` Chase Venters
2006-08-21  7:58             ` Helge Hafting
2006-08-21 11:27               ` Stefan Richter
2006-08-21 13:06               ` Alan Cox
2006-08-21 14:59               ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-08-17  9:30 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-17  9:29   ` Patrick McFarland
2006-08-17 14:52 ` Helge Hafting
2006-08-17 14:58 ` Anonymous User
2006-08-17 15:52   ` Stefan Richter
2006-08-17 16:19   ` Michiel de Boer

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