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From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: Helge Hafting <helge.hafting@aitel.hist.no>
Cc: Chase Venters <chase.venters@clientec.com>,
	Helge Hafting <helgehaf@aitel.hist.no>,
	David Schwartz <davids@webmaster.com>,
	"Linux-Kernel@Vger. Kernel. Org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: GPL Violation?
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 14:06:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1156165570.18887.27.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44E9678A.7050704@aitel.hist.no>

Ar Llu, 2006-08-21 am 09:58 +0200, ysgrifennodd Helge Hafting: 
> > brand new ground. I think it is more likely that the plaintiff could be 
> > awarded monetary damages and the defendant enjoined from further 
> > redistribution.

That is the history with gpl-violations.org, although almost everyone
has settled out of court.

> The reason courts usually award monetary damages is that
> money is what almost everybody wants.  Commercial software,

I've no idea about Norway but in the UK and US money is just a
convenient shorthand for transferring and measuring the harm caused by
the action in accordance with civil law rules on equity. In some
countries large scale commercial copyright violation is also a criminal
offence.

> It'd be hard to set a price anyway, given that GPL software
> isn't usually sold.  The price of having a professional programmer
> developing the same driver perhaps?

A good US lawyer would no doubt ask for the cost of developing an
equivalent open source driver, reverse engineering, and lost
opportunities caused by the time this will take, trebled for being
intentional, and class action on behalf of all the rights-holders.

What a court would award is unknown, there is AFAIK no useful US caselaw
on either class action copyright infringement suits or GPL violation
penalties.

Alan


  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-08-21 12:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-08-17  5:48 Anonymous User
2006-08-17  6:14 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-08-17  9:38   ` Ben B
2006-08-17 12:02     ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-08-17 16:11       ` Stefan Richter
2006-08-17 19:21   ` James Courtier-Dutton
2006-08-17 23:26     ` Ian Stirling
     [not found]       ` <20060817193540.dc819396.seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
2006-08-17 23:35         ` Sean
2006-08-18  0:32       ` Alan Cox
2006-08-18  7:23       ` Xavier Bestel
2006-08-18 12:23         ` Ian Stirling
2006-08-18  9:04       ` Helge Hafting
2006-08-17  6:42 ` Patrick McFarland
2006-08-17  6:54   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-08-17  7:32     ` Patrick McFarland
2006-08-17  8:02       ` Adrian Bunk
2006-08-17  9:03         ` Patrick McFarland
2006-08-18 17:56           ` Adrian Bunk
2006-08-17 12:39         ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2006-08-17 13:41           ` Alan Cox
2006-08-17 13:31             ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2006-08-17 15:52               ` Theodore Tso
2006-08-18  2:03             ` Chase Venters
2006-08-17  8:32   ` Stefan Richter
2006-08-17  9:36     ` Patrick McFarland
2006-08-17 11:25       ` Alan Cox
2006-08-17 11:48         ` Neil Brown
2006-08-17  9:37   ` David Woodhouse
2006-08-17 23:45     ` Ian Stirling
2006-08-18  8:28       ` David Woodhouse
2006-08-18 12:52         ` Ian Stirling
2006-08-18  8:53       ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-08-18  9:04         ` David Woodhouse
2006-08-18  9:15           ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-08-20 22:05     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2006-08-20 22:20       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-08-18  9:51   ` David Schwartz
2006-08-18 16:52     ` Alan Cox
2006-08-18 22:42       ` David Schwartz
2006-08-19 10:48         ` David Greaves
2006-08-19 16:29           ` Patrick McFarland
2006-08-19 17:28             ` David Greaves
2006-08-19 11:30         ` Helge Hafting
2006-08-19 15:44           ` Michael Buesch
2006-08-19 23:01           ` David Schwartz
2006-08-20  3:20           ` Chase Venters
2006-08-21  7:58             ` Helge Hafting
2006-08-21 11:27               ` Stefan Richter
2006-08-21 13:06               ` Alan Cox [this message]
2006-08-21 14:59               ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-08-17  9:30 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-17  9:29   ` Patrick McFarland
2006-08-17 14:52 ` Helge Hafting
2006-08-17 14:58 ` Anonymous User
2006-08-17 15:52   ` Stefan Richter
2006-08-17 16:19   ` Michiel de Boer

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