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From: Denys Vlasenko <vda.linux@googlemail.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, vapier@gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] allow execve'ing "/proc/self/exe" even if /proc is not  mounted
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 01:49:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1158166a0906241649u78c717c4q8aebfe16e6018e78@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090624162125.a3a9b2c4.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 1:21 AM, Andrew Morton<akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 01:00:56 +0200
> Denys Vlasenko <vda.linux@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> In some circumstances running process needs to re-execute
>> its image.
...
>> More elegant way is to execute /proc/self/exe.
>> This works just fine as long as /proc is mounted.
>>
>> But it breaks if /proc isn't mounted, and this can happen in real-world
>> usage. For example, when shell invoked very early in initrd/initramfs.
>
> Why can't userspace mount /proc before doing the daemonization?

Some people want to unset CONFIG_PROC_FS, and still have
working POSIX compatible shell. Coincidentally, NOMMU
machines, ones which *require* re-execution of the shell to support that,
tent to be the most memory starved machines too (thus most likely
to be those where people desire to unset CONFIG_PROC_FS).

> Oh geeze.  Hard-coded "/proc/self/exec" it the middle of the core exec
> code?  You're a brave man.

There are other alternatives. This looked to be the least ugly
to me.

We can special-case execve(NULL, ...).
But I feared people would say this will change previously-buggy
userspace code into one acting weirdly; in come cases
leading to infinite execve loops. Do you think it's better
than "/proc/self/exe"?

Then I thought about using a special name to mean "re-execute me",
like "", or "/./self" or whatever. Whatever I though about,
it was either risking a collision with a real file, or was too ugly,
or both.

Then it occurred to me that "/proc/self/exe" _already is_
such a name. It is _already used_ for this purpose, so the userspace
does not need to be changed.

For the extra non-intrusiveness, the hack kicks in only if
/proc/self/exe does not exist.


[code style notes skipped. I will re-write it in whatever form
 you like it most, when/if it will be agreed on in principle ]

> But don't do any of that yet.  This will be an unpopular patch and I
> fear for its future ;)

Propose some other way to make it possible to re-execute a binary
without /proc.
--
vda

  reply	other threads:[~2009-06-24 23:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-24 23:00 Denys Vlasenko
2009-06-24 23:21 ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-24 23:49   ` Denys Vlasenko [this message]
2009-06-24 14:51     ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-25  0:26     ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-26  8:06     ` Florian Weimer
2009-06-24 23:58 ` Al Viro
2009-06-25  0:07   ` Mike Frysinger
2009-06-26 23:18   ` Denys Vlasenko
2009-06-25  8:10 ` Alan Cox
2009-06-26  8:00   ` Denys Vlasenko
2009-06-26 13:26     ` Mike Frysinger
2009-06-26 22:55       ` Denys Vlasenko
2009-06-28 19:31         ` Mike Frysinger
2009-06-25 18:02 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-25 18:16   ` Mike Frysinger

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