From: Rohit Seth <rohitseth@google.com>
To: balbir@in.ibm.com
Cc: CKRM-Tech <ckrm-tech@lists.sourceforge.net>,
sekharan@us.ibm.com, devel@openvz.org,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [ckrm-tech] [patch00/05]: Containers(V2)- Introduction
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 17:22:59 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1159489380.2669.128.camel@galaxy.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <451C4468.4010009@in.ibm.com>
On Fri, 2006-09-29 at 03:23 +0530, Balbir Singh wrote:
> Rohit Seth wrote:
> > On Thu, 2006-09-28 at 13:31 +0530, Balbir Singh wrote:
> >
> >> (b) The other option is to do what the resource group memory controller does -
> >> build a per group LRU list of pages (active, inactive) and reclaim
> >> them using the existing code (by passing the correct container pointer,
> >> instead of the zone pointer). One disadvantage of this approach is that
> >> the global reclaim is impacted as the global LRU list is broken. At the
> >> expense of another list, we could maintain two lists, global LRU and
> >> container LRU lists. Depending on the context of the reclaim - (container
> >> over limit, memory pressure) we could update/manipulate both lists.
> >> This approach is definitely very expensive.
> >>
> >
> > Two LRUs is a nice idea. Though I don't think it will go too far. It
> > will involve adding another list pointers in the page structure. I
> > agree that the mem handler is not optimal at all but I don't want to
> > make it mimic kernel reclaimer at the same time.
>
> One possible solution is to move the container tracking out of the pages and
> into address_space and anon_vma. I guess this functionality will complicate
> task migration and accounting a bit though.
>
In the next version, I'm removing the per page pointer for container.
address_space already has a container pointer, I'm adding a pointer in
anon_vma as well. And that does seem to be complicating the accounting
just a wee bit. Though on its own, it is not helping the reclaim part.
I'll have to see how to handle kernel pages w/o a per page pointer.
> >
> >> 2. Comments on task migration support
> >>
> >> (a) One of the issues I found while using the container code is that, one could
> >> add a task to a container say "a". "a" gets charged for the tasks usage,
> >> when the same task moves to a different container say "b", when the task
> >> exits, the credit goes to "b" and "a" remains indefinitely charged.
> >>
> > hmm, when the task is removed from "a" then "a" gets the credits for the
> > amount of anon memory that is used by the task. Or do you mean
> > something different.
>
> Aah, I see. Once possible minor concern here is that a task could hope across
> several containers, it could map files in each container and allocate page
> cache pages, when it reaches the limit, it could hop to another container
> and carry on until it hits the limit there.
>
If there are multiple containers that a process can hop to then yes that
will happen.
-rohit
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-09-29 0:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 125+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-09-20 2:16 Rohit Seth
2006-09-20 13:06 ` [Devel] " Cedric Le Goater
2006-09-20 16:45 ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-20 16:25 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 16:44 ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-20 16:48 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 17:07 ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-20 17:12 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 22:27 ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 22:59 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 17:26 ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-20 17:37 ` [ckrm-tech] " Paul Menage
2006-09-20 17:38 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 17:42 ` [ckrm-tech] " Paul Menage
2006-09-20 18:07 ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-20 19:51 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 20:06 ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 22:58 ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 23:02 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 23:33 ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-20 23:36 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 23:39 ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-20 23:51 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-21 0:05 ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-21 0:09 ` [ckrm-tech] " Paul Menage
2006-09-20 23:26 ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-20 23:31 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-21 0:51 ` [Lhms-devel] " KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2006-09-21 1:33 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2006-09-21 1:36 ` [ckrm-tech] " Paul Menage
2006-09-20 22:51 ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 23:01 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 23:22 ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-20 23:45 ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 17:34 ` Alan Cox
2006-09-20 17:15 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 17:48 ` Alan Cox
2006-09-20 17:35 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 23:29 ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 23:18 ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 17:30 ` [ckrm-tech] " Paul Menage
2006-09-20 23:37 ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 23:53 ` Paul Menage
2006-09-21 0:07 ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-21 0:10 ` Paul Menage
2006-09-21 0:17 ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 18:34 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-20 18:43 ` Paul Menage
2006-09-20 18:54 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-20 19:25 ` Paul Menage
2006-09-20 19:35 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-20 19:57 ` Paul Menage
2006-09-21 0:30 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-21 0:33 ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-21 0:50 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-21 0:34 ` Paul Menage
2006-09-20 20:49 ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 20:51 ` Paul Menage
2006-09-20 21:04 ` Paul Jackson
[not found] ` <6599ad830609201605s2fc1ccbdse31e3e60a50d56bc@mail.google.com>
2006-09-20 23:54 ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 23:57 ` Paul Menage
2006-09-21 0:09 ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-21 1:25 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-21 0:45 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-21 0:51 ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 19:55 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 20:27 ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-21 17:02 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-09-21 19:29 ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 20:11 ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 20:17 ` Paul Menage
2006-09-20 19:52 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-21 0:31 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-21 0:36 ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-21 0:42 ` Paul Menage
2006-09-21 1:45 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-21 1:52 ` Paul Menage
2006-09-21 20:06 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-21 20:10 ` Paul Menage
2006-09-21 21:44 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-21 22:09 ` Paul Menage
2006-09-22 0:06 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-22 0:13 ` Paul Menage
2006-09-22 0:55 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-22 0:24 ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-22 0:57 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-22 1:11 ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-21 21:59 ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-21 22:07 ` Paul Menage
2006-09-21 22:48 ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 19:09 ` Chandra Seetharaman
[not found] ` <4510D3F4.1040009@yahoo.com.au>
2006-09-20 16:26 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 16:56 ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-20 17:08 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 17:19 ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-20 17:30 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 18:03 ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-20 17:40 ` Alan Cox
2006-09-20 16:27 ` Rohit Seth
[not found] ` <1158751720.8970.67.camel@twins>
[not found] ` <4511626B.9000106@yahoo.com.au>
[not found] ` <1158767787.3278.103.camel@taijtu>
2006-09-20 17:00 ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-20 17:23 ` [ckrm-tech] " Paul Menage
2006-09-20 17:36 ` Alan Cox
2006-09-20 17:30 ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-20 17:50 ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-20 17:52 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 18:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-09-20 18:14 ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-20 18:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-09-20 18:33 ` [ckrm-tech] " Paul Menage
2006-09-20 18:38 ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-20 19:48 ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 19:48 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 19:51 ` [ckrm-tech] " Paul Menage
2006-09-20 18:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-09-20 18:57 ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-27 19:50 ` [ckrm-tech] " Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-27 21:28 ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-27 22:24 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-28 8:01 ` Balbir Singh
2006-09-28 18:31 ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-28 21:53 ` Balbir Singh
2006-09-29 0:22 ` Rohit Seth [this message]
2006-09-28 18:12 ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-28 20:23 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-28 21:38 ` Rohit Seth
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