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From: Rohit Seth <rohitseth@google.com>
To: balbir@in.ibm.com
Cc: CKRM-Tech <ckrm-tech@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	sekharan@us.ibm.com, devel@openvz.org,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [ckrm-tech] [patch00/05]: Containers(V2)- Introduction
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 17:22:59 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1159489380.2669.128.camel@galaxy.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <451C4468.4010009@in.ibm.com>

On Fri, 2006-09-29 at 03:23 +0530, Balbir Singh wrote:
> Rohit Seth wrote:
> > On Thu, 2006-09-28 at 13:31 +0530, Balbir Singh wrote:

> > 
> >> (b) The other option is to do what the resource group memory controller does -
> >> build a per group LRU list of pages (active, inactive) and reclaim
> >> them using the existing code (by passing the correct container pointer,
> >> instead of the zone pointer). One disadvantage of this approach is that
> >> the global reclaim is impacted as the global LRU list is broken. At the
> >> expense of another list, we could maintain two lists, global LRU and
> >> container LRU lists. Depending on the context of the reclaim - (container
> >> over limit, memory pressure) we could update/manipulate both lists.
> >> This approach is definitely very expensive.
> >>
> > 
> > Two LRUs is a nice idea.  Though I don't think it will go too far.  It
> > will involve adding another list pointers in the page structure.  I
> > agree that the mem handler is not optimal at all but I don't want to
> > make it mimic kernel reclaimer at the same time.
> 
> One possible solution is to move the container tracking out of the pages and
> into address_space and anon_vma. I guess this functionality will complicate
> task migration and accounting a bit though.
> 

In the next version, I'm removing the per page pointer for container.
address_space already has a container pointer, I'm adding a pointer in
anon_vma as well.  And that does seem to be complicating the accounting
just a wee bit.  Though on its own, it is not helping the reclaim part. 

I'll have to see how to handle kernel pages w/o a per page pointer.

> > 
> >> 2. Comments on task migration support
> >>
> >> (a) One of the issues I found while using the container code is that, one could
> >> add a task to a container say "a". "a" gets charged for the tasks usage,
> >> when the same task moves to a different container say "b", when the task
> >> exits, the credit goes to "b" and "a" remains indefinitely charged.
> >>
> > hmm, when the task is removed from "a" then "a" gets the credits for the
> > amount of anon memory that is used by the task.  Or do you mean
> > something different.
> 
> Aah, I see. Once possible minor concern here is that a task could hope across
> several containers, it could map files in each container and allocate page
> cache pages, when it reaches the limit, it could hop to another container
> and carry on until it hits the limit there.
> 
If there are multiple containers that a process can hop to then yes that
will happen.



-rohit


  reply	other threads:[~2006-09-29  0:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 125+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-09-20  2:16 Rohit Seth
2006-09-20 13:06 ` [Devel] " Cedric Le Goater
2006-09-20 16:45   ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-20 16:25 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 16:44   ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-20 16:48     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 17:07       ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-20 17:12         ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 22:27           ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 22:59             ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 17:26   ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-20 17:37     ` [ckrm-tech] " Paul Menage
2006-09-20 17:38     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 17:42       ` [ckrm-tech] " Paul Menage
2006-09-20 18:07       ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-20 19:51         ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 20:06         ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 22:58         ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 23:02           ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 23:33             ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-20 23:36               ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 23:39                 ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-20 23:51                   ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-21  0:05                     ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-21  0:09                       ` [ckrm-tech] " Paul Menage
2006-09-20 23:26           ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-20 23:31             ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-21  0:51               ` [Lhms-devel] " KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2006-09-21  1:33                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2006-09-21  1:36                   ` [ckrm-tech] " Paul Menage
2006-09-20 22:51     ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 23:01       ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 23:22       ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-20 23:45         ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 17:34   ` Alan Cox
2006-09-20 17:15     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 17:48       ` Alan Cox
2006-09-20 17:35         ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 23:29         ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 23:18       ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 17:30     ` [ckrm-tech] " Paul Menage
2006-09-20 23:37       ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 23:53         ` Paul Menage
2006-09-21  0:07           ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-21  0:10             ` Paul Menage
2006-09-21  0:17               ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 18:34   ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-20 18:43     ` Paul Menage
2006-09-20 18:54       ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-20 19:25         ` Paul Menage
2006-09-20 19:35           ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-20 19:57             ` Paul Menage
2006-09-21  0:30               ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-21  0:33                 ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-21  0:50                   ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-21  0:34                 ` Paul Menage
2006-09-20 20:49           ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 20:51             ` Paul Menage
2006-09-20 21:04               ` Paul Jackson
     [not found]                 ` <6599ad830609201605s2fc1ccbdse31e3e60a50d56bc@mail.google.com>
2006-09-20 23:54                   ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 23:57                     ` Paul Menage
2006-09-21  0:09                       ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-21  1:25                   ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-21  0:45             ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-21  0:51               ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 19:55         ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 20:27         ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-21 17:02           ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-09-21 19:29             ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 20:11       ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 20:17         ` Paul Menage
2006-09-20 19:52     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-21  0:31       ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-21  0:36         ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-21  0:42           ` Paul Menage
2006-09-21  1:45             ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-21  1:52               ` Paul Menage
2006-09-21 20:06                 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-21 20:10                   ` Paul Menage
2006-09-21 21:44                     ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-21 22:09                       ` Paul Menage
2006-09-22  0:06                         ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-22  0:13                           ` Paul Menage
2006-09-22  0:55                             ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-22  0:24                           ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-22  0:57                             ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-22  1:11                               ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-21 21:59                     ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-21 22:07                       ` Paul Menage
2006-09-21 22:48                         ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 19:09   ` Chandra Seetharaman
     [not found] ` <4510D3F4.1040009@yahoo.com.au>
2006-09-20 16:26   ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 16:56     ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-20 17:08       ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 17:19         ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-20 17:30           ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 18:03             ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-20 17:40       ` Alan Cox
2006-09-20 16:27   ` Rohit Seth
     [not found]   ` <1158751720.8970.67.camel@twins>
     [not found]     ` <4511626B.9000106@yahoo.com.au>
     [not found]       ` <1158767787.3278.103.camel@taijtu>
2006-09-20 17:00         ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-20 17:23           ` [ckrm-tech] " Paul Menage
2006-09-20 17:36           ` Alan Cox
2006-09-20 17:30             ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-20 17:50           ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-20 17:52             ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 18:06               ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-09-20 18:14                 ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-20 18:27                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-09-20 18:33                     ` [ckrm-tech] " Paul Menage
2006-09-20 18:38                     ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-20 19:48                 ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 19:48                 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 19:51                   ` [ckrm-tech] " Paul Menage
2006-09-20 18:37             ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-09-20 18:57               ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-27 19:50 ` [ckrm-tech] " Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-27 21:28   ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-27 22:24     ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-28  8:01       ` Balbir Singh
2006-09-28 18:31         ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-28 21:53           ` Balbir Singh
2006-09-29  0:22             ` Rohit Seth [this message]
2006-09-28 18:12       ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-28 20:23         ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-28 21:38           ` Rohit Seth

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