From: Keith Packard <keithp@keithp.com>
To: Keith Whitwell <keith@tungstengraphics.com>
Cc: keithp@keithp.com,
"Thomas Hellström" <thomas@tungstengraphics.com>,
dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
"Dave Airlie" <airlied@gmail.com>,
"Linux Kernel" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Jesse Barnes" <jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] [PATCH] DRM TTM Memory Manager patch
Date: Fri, 04 May 2007 09:26:09 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1178295969.27028.51.camel@neko.keithp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <463B5803.6050802@tungstengraphics.com>
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On Fri, 2007-05-04 at 16:57 +0100, Keith Whitwell wrote:
> That's a special case of a the general problem of what do you do when a
> client submits any validation list that can't be satisfied. Failing to
> render isn't really an option, either the client or the memory manager
> has to either prevent it happening in the first place or have some
> mechanism for chopping up the dma buffer into segments which are
> satisfiable... Neither of which I can see an absolutely reliable way to
> do.
I think we must return an error from the kernel and let user mode sort
it out; potentially by breaking up the operation into smaller pieces, or
(ick), simply falling back to software. Eliminating per-submit flushing
will even make this reasonably efficient as we remap the GTT as objects
are used. I don't think we want to support automatic partitioning of the
operation in the kernel; punting that step to user mode seems like a
sensible option.
Certainly presenting all of the objects to the kernel atomically will
permit it to succeed if the device can possibly perform the operation;
ejecting all existing objects and reloading with precisely the objects
proposed by the application can be done, and is even inexpensive on UMA
hardware.
> The way to get around this is to mandate that hardware supports paged
> virtual memory... But that seems to be a difficult trick.
Yeah, especially as we don't currently have any examples in our
environment.
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keith.packard@intel.com
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prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-05-04 16:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-04-26 6:55 Dave Airlie
2007-04-27 16:39 ` Greg KH
2007-04-30 23:10 ` Dave Airlie
2007-04-30 23:50 ` Dave Jones
2007-05-01 0:10 ` Thomas Hellström
2007-05-01 22:36 ` Ingo Oeser
2007-05-02 3:59 ` Greg KH
2007-05-02 20:21 ` Eric Anholt
2007-05-02 23:01 ` Thomas Hellström
2007-05-04 4:07 ` Keith Packard
2007-05-04 8:07 ` Thomas Hellström
2007-05-04 8:49 ` Jerome Glisse
2007-05-04 9:40 ` Jerome Glisse
2007-05-04 15:28 ` Keith Packard
2007-05-04 11:03 ` Thomas Hellström
2007-05-04 11:57 ` Jerome Glisse
2007-05-04 12:32 ` Thomas Hellström
2007-05-04 12:52 ` Jerome Glisse
2007-05-04 15:32 ` Keith Packard
2007-05-04 15:15 ` Keith Packard
2007-05-04 15:57 ` Keith Whitwell
2007-05-04 16:26 ` Keith Packard [this message]
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