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From: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Change in default vm_dirty_ratio
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 17:09:53 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1182211793.2707.3.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.0.98.0706181700280.3593@woody.linux-foundation.org>


> Is it good to keep tons of dirty stuff around? Sure. It allows overwriting 
> (and thus avoiding doing the write in the first place), but it also allows 
> for a more aggressive IO scheduling, in that you have more writes that you 
> can schedule.


it also allows for an elevator that can merge more so that there are
less seeks...


so it's not all pure artificial ;(

I really don't like doing just-for-benchmark tuning ... but I wonder how
much real workloads this will get too (like installing or upgrading a
bunch of rpms)

As for the smoother IO thing.. there's already a kernel process that
writes this lot out after 5 seconds... so that ought to smooth some of
this out already.... I would hope.

(I'm not arguing this change is wrong, I'm just grinding my teeth on how
long updating rpms already takes... for no apparent reason)


  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-19  0:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-18 21:14 Tim Chen
2007-06-18 23:47 ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-19  0:06   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-19  0:09     ` Arjan van de Ven [this message]
2007-06-19 18:41   ` John Stoffel
2007-06-19 19:04     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-19 19:06       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-19 22:33       ` David Miller
2007-06-19 19:57   ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-20  4:24   ` Dave Jones
2007-06-20  4:44     ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-20  8:35       ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-06-20  8:58         ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-20  9:14           ` Jens Axboe
2007-06-20  9:19             ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-06-20  9:20               ` Jens Axboe
2007-06-20  9:43                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-06-21 22:53                 ` Matt Mackall
2007-06-21 23:08                   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-23 18:23                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-06-24 16:40                       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-25  0:15                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-06-20  9:19           ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-06-21 16:54           ` Mark Lord
2007-06-21 16:55             ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-06-20 17:17         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-20 18:12           ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-20 18:28             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-21 12:37     ` Nadia Derbey

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