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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: John Stoffel <john@stoffel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Change in default vm_dirty_ratio
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 12:04:33 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.0.98.0706191201130.3593@woody.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <18040.9056.755569.67029@stoffel.org>



On Tue, 19 Jun 2007, John Stoffel wrote:
> 
> Shouldn't the vm_dirty_ratio be based on the speed of the device, and
> not the size of memory?

Yes. It should depend on:
 - speed of the device(s) in question
 - seekiness of the workload
 - wishes of the user as per the latency of other operations.

However, nobody has ever found the required algorithm.

So "at most 10% of memory dirty" is a simple (and fairly _good_) 
heuristic. Nobody has actually ever ended up complaining about the change 
from 40% -> 10%, and as far as I know this was the first report (and it's 
not so much because the change was bad, but because it showed up on a 
benchmark - and I don't think that actually says anythign about anything 
else then the behaviour of the benchmark itself)

So are there better algorithms in theory? Probably lots of them.

		Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-19 19:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-18 21:14 Tim Chen
2007-06-18 23:47 ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-19  0:06   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-19  0:09     ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-19 18:41   ` John Stoffel
2007-06-19 19:04     ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2007-06-19 19:06       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-19 22:33       ` David Miller
2007-06-19 19:57   ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-20  4:24   ` Dave Jones
2007-06-20  4:44     ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-20  8:35       ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-06-20  8:58         ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-20  9:14           ` Jens Axboe
2007-06-20  9:19             ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-06-20  9:20               ` Jens Axboe
2007-06-20  9:43                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-06-21 22:53                 ` Matt Mackall
2007-06-21 23:08                   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-23 18:23                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-06-24 16:40                       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-25  0:15                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-06-20  9:19           ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-06-21 16:54           ` Mark Lord
2007-06-21 16:55             ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-06-20 17:17         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-20 18:12           ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-20 18:28             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-21 12:37     ` Nadia Derbey

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