From: Daniel Walker <dwalker@mvista.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] release quicklist before free_page
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 12:46:05 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1185219965.2573.127.camel@imap.mvista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070723185832.GA31151@elte.hu>
On Mon, 2007-07-23 at 20:58 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Daniel Walker <dwalker@mvista.com> wrote:
>
> > (btw, your comment above comes off very snide, which I don't
> > appreciate. I haven't done anything that remotely warrants that.)
>
> That snideness is simply a reflection, to make you realize how it feels.
> I tried to point this issue out to you in the past, but here we go
> again, back to square one. But i'm not giving up on you :-)
I could say the same thing ".. here we go again .."
> Peter sent a patch to a subtly buggy patch of yours (which introduces a
> bug worse than it fixes), with this comment:
I'm with you up to this point ..
> | | How about this - compile tested only
>
> and you replied in this almost flagrant tone:
>
> | How about a comment to go with it ? Which says something like what's
> | above, notes on how the locking is getting used.. "
before I sent this I must have accidentally delete the "Ok." which
originally proceeded the above.
> that kind of tone can be offensive, in such a context. I _know_ you
> (still) dont realize it as offensive and that you dont accept my
> characterisation of it, but nevertheless it's a fact and i'm going to
> complain about it to you when i see you do it.
I do disagree with the way your accepting this .. I wouldn't say "It's a
fact" either, since I don't accept similar comments from other people
the way your accepting it .. English generally is pretty loose. I could
say "That car is bad" which could literally mean the car is good or
nice.. There is a whole cornucopia of things that need to be considered.
> A proper polite answer to the helpful patch of Peter would have been
> what i suggested:
>
> > > how about: "if you've got some time then please also add a few
> > > comments, because the code was quite non-obvious to me and I
> > > misunderstood it when I tried to fix it. Thanks."
>
> the basis of writing such replies is a certain level of humility and
> fundamental respect towards the capabilities of other kernel developers.
> Do you have it? If yes, are you willing to express it? If yes then
> please do so.
I didn't argue with Peter , which means I agree with what he said .. He
was right, I was wrong and I accepted what he said in it's entirety ..
Certainly there is a level of respect there.. Had I argued with him it
would be different .
I'm a minimalist .. I don't say more than I need to, and it's not about
respect or superiority .. For example, I don't like saying "I think" or
"My opinion is" since that's implicit in my comments. If I'm writing
something clearly that's my opinion .. And a question mark alone
represents "Do you have it? If yes, are you willing to express it? If
yes then please do so"
Daniel
prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-07-23 19:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-07-23 15:21 Daniel Walker
2007-07-23 16:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-07-23 16:26 ` Daniel Walker
2007-07-23 18:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-23 18:27 ` Daniel Walker
2007-07-23 18:58 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-23 19:46 ` Daniel Walker [this message]
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