From: Ed Vance <EdV@macrolink.com>
To: "'Davide Libenzi'" <davidel@xmailserver.org>
Cc: Russell King <rmk@arm.linux.org.uk>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: [PATCH] [2.5] Non-blocking write can block
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 17:04:46 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <11E89240C407D311958800A0C9ACF7D1A33EBD@EXCHANGE> (raw)
On Wed, June 04, 2003 at 4:47 PM, Davide Libenzi wrote:
>
> On Thu, 5 Jun 2003, Russell King wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 08:46:51PM +0100, P. Benie wrote:
> > > The problem isn't to do with large writes. It's to do
> with any sequence of
> > > writes that fills up the receive buffer, which is only 4K
> for N_TTY. If
> > > the receiving program is suspended, the buffer will fill
> sooner or later.
> >
> > If the tty drivers buffer fills, we don't sleep in
> tty->driver->write,
> > but we return zero instead. If we are in non-blocking mode, and we
> > haven't written any characters, we return -EAGAIN. If we have, we
> > return the number of characters which the tty driver accepted.
> >
> > However, the problem you are referring to is what happens
> if you have
> > a blocking process blocked in write_chan() in n_tty.c, and we have
> > a non-blocking process trying to write to the same tty.
> >
> > Reading POSIX, it doesn't seem to be clear about our area
> of interest,
> > and I'd even say that it seems to be unspecified.
>
> Given that a problem exist for certain apps, and given that
> the proposed
> fix will *at least* have existing apps to behave funny, couldn't this
> implemented as a feature of the fd (default off).
> Something like O_REALLYNONBLOCK :)
>
Davide,
Do you mean something like the separate O_NDELAY flag under Solar*s? IIRC
they also use return code EWOULDBLOCK to differentiate the "could not get
resource" cases from the "no room for more data" cases when O_NONBLOCK is
used.
Cheers,
Ed
next reply other threads:[~2003-06-04 23:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-06-05 0:04 Ed Vance [this message]
2003-06-05 0:19 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-06-05 18:34 ` Mike Fedyk
2003-06-05 19:15 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-06-05 21:46 ` Joe Korty
2003-06-06 0:13 ` Davide Libenzi
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2003-06-06 12:13 Nicholas Berry
2003-06-04 19:36 Hua Zhong
2003-06-04 20:09 ` Hua Zhong
[not found] <20030604172026$296c@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <20030604175013$3a4d@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-06-04 19:13 ` Ben Pfaff
2003-06-04 0:58 P. Benie
2003-06-04 5:53 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-06-04 14:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-06-04 14:58 ` P. Benie
2003-06-04 16:47 ` Alan Cox
2003-06-04 17:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-06-04 19:46 ` P. Benie
2003-06-04 19:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-06-04 20:48 ` P. Benie
2003-06-11 0:19 ` Robert White
2003-06-04 20:43 ` Hua Zhong
2003-06-04 23:42 ` Russell King
2003-06-04 23:47 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-06-04 21:29 ` Alan Cox
2003-06-04 17:14 ` Hua Zhong
2003-06-04 17:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-06-04 18:44 ` Hua Zhong
2003-06-04 18:47 ` P. Benie
2003-06-04 19:23 ` P. Benie
2003-06-04 19:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-06-04 17:53 ` Mike Dresser
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