From: Davide Libenzi <davidel@xmailserver.org>
To: Russell King <rmk@arm.linux.org.uk>
Cc: "P. Benie" <pjb1008@eng.cam.ac.uk>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [2.5] Non-blocking write can block
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 16:47:27 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.55.0306041645060.3655@bigblue.dev.mcafeelabs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030605004246.H22460@flint.arm.linux.org.uk>
On Thu, 5 Jun 2003, Russell King wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 08:46:51PM +0100, P. Benie wrote:
> > The problem isn't to do with large writes. It's to do with any sequence of
> > writes that fills up the receive buffer, which is only 4K for N_TTY. If
> > the receiving program is suspended, the buffer will fill sooner or later.
>
> If the tty drivers buffer fills, we don't sleep in tty->driver->write,
> but we return zero instead. If we are in non-blocking mode, and we
> haven't written any characters, we return -EAGAIN. If we have, we
> return the number of characters which the tty driver accepted.
>
> However, the problem you are referring to is what happens if you have
> a blocking process blocked in write_chan() in n_tty.c, and we have
> a non-blocking process trying to write to the same tty.
>
> Reading POSIX, it doesn't seem to be clear about our area of interest,
> and I'd even say that it seems to be unspecified.
Given that a problem exist for certain apps, and given that the proposed
fix will *at least* have existing apps to behave funny, couldn't this
implemented as a feature of the fd (default off).
Something like O_REALLYNONBLOCK :)
- Davide
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-06-04 23:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-06-04 0:58 P. Benie
2003-06-04 5:53 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-06-04 14:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-06-04 14:58 ` P. Benie
2003-06-04 16:47 ` Alan Cox
2003-06-04 17:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-06-04 19:46 ` P. Benie
2003-06-04 19:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-06-04 20:48 ` P. Benie
2003-06-11 0:19 ` Robert White
2003-06-04 20:43 ` Hua Zhong
2003-06-04 23:42 ` Russell King
2003-06-04 23:47 ` Davide Libenzi [this message]
2003-06-04 21:29 ` Alan Cox
2003-06-04 17:14 ` Hua Zhong
2003-06-04 17:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-06-04 18:44 ` Hua Zhong
2003-06-04 18:47 ` P. Benie
2003-06-04 19:23 ` P. Benie
2003-06-04 19:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-06-04 17:53 ` Mike Dresser
2003-06-04 15:21 ` Coding standards. (Was: Re: [PATCH] [2.5] Non-blocking write can block) Timothy Miller
2003-06-07 0:12 ` Greg KH
2003-06-07 0:59 ` Alex Goddard
2003-06-09 16:24 ` Timothy Miller
2003-06-09 16:39 ` Jörn Engel
2003-06-09 17:15 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-06-09 17:33 ` Eli Carter
2003-06-09 17:49 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-06-09 18:07 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-06-09 18:22 ` Jörn Engel
2003-06-09 18:55 ` Timothy Miller
2003-06-09 18:58 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-06-09 21:35 ` David Schwartz
2003-06-09 22:55 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-06-09 23:21 ` Nigel Cunningham
2003-06-09 21:54 ` Jörn Engel
2003-06-10 18:17 ` Jesse Pollard
2003-06-10 18:41 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-06-10 18:14 ` Jesse Pollard
2003-06-09 23:50 ` James Stevenson
2003-06-09 18:44 ` Timothy Miller
2003-06-09 22:00 ` Jörn Engel
[not found] <20030604172026$296c@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <20030604175013$3a4d@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-06-04 19:13 ` [PATCH] [2.5] Non-blocking write can block Ben Pfaff
2003-06-04 19:36 Hua Zhong
2003-06-04 20:09 ` Hua Zhong
2003-06-05 0:04 Ed Vance
2003-06-05 0:19 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-06-05 18:34 ` Mike Fedyk
2003-06-05 19:15 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-06-05 21:46 ` Joe Korty
2003-06-06 0:13 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-06-06 12:13 Nicholas Berry
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