From: Keith Packard <keithp@keithp.com>
To: John Stoffel <john@stoffel.org>
Cc: keithp@keithp.com, Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Eric Anholt <eric@anholt.net>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Export shmem_file_setup and shmem_getpage for DRM-GEM
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:28:25 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1217910505.24714.152.camel@koto.keithp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <18583.47633.987143.236236@stoffel.org>
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On Mon, 2008-08-04 at 22:25 -0400, John Stoffel wrote:
> What about the onboard memory of graphics cards? Isn't that where
> Textures and such are stored as well? So once something is loaded to
> the card, shouldn't you be able to free it in system memory? Or swap
> it out ahead of time?
Right now, I'm working only on Intel integrated graphics, which doesn't
have any on-board memory. My thinking is that we'd best solve the
easiest case first before attempting the harder discrete graphics
driver. Plus, Intel pays me do do integrated graphics, so I have an
incentive.
Not that we haven't been thinking about how this plays with a discrete
card; we'll need to allocate backing store for any objects which are
placed in on-card memory in case we run out of on-card memory, and also
as a place to store objects when the system suspends. From the
perspective of shmem, it should be precisely the same; allocating
anonymous pages and handing them to the DRM driver to store video card
data.
> I just wonder here, since GPUs are different from other drivers in
> that (I assume) they are written too much more often than they are
> read to, that they should hopefully be much more amenable to drop
> behind semantics for pages they've been sent, to free system
> resources.
Yup, I think you understand the situation fairly well. I've got a big
pile of pages sitting idle in the GTT which could be pulled out and
given back to the system. I like to keep a bunch around as the cost of
getting pages out of the CPU cache and bound to the GTT is non-trivial,
but if there's any memory pressure, the cost to free them is quite low.
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keith.packard@intel.com
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-08-05 4:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-08-01 6:58 [PATCH] PCI: Add pci_read_base() API Eric Anholt
2008-08-01 6:58 ` [PATCH] Export shmem_file_setup and shmem_getpage for DRM-GEM Eric Anholt
2008-08-01 6:58 ` [PATCH] drm: Add GEM ("graphics execution manager") to i915 driver Eric Anholt
2008-08-01 15:44 ` Randy Dunlap
2008-08-01 18:11 ` Keith Packard
2008-08-06 1:11 ` Eric Anholt
2008-08-01 7:10 ` [PATCH] Export shmem_file_setup and shmem_getpage for DRM-GEM Eric Anholt
2008-08-01 10:57 ` Hugh Dickins
2008-08-01 18:06 ` Keith Packard
2008-08-01 20:50 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-08-01 23:01 ` Keith Packard
2008-08-03 12:49 ` John Stoffel
2008-08-03 17:52 ` Keith Packard
2008-08-03 23:35 ` files/process scaling problem? (was: [PATCH] Export shmem_file_setup and shmem_getpage for DRM-GEM) Ingo Oeser
2008-08-04 0:19 ` Keith Packard
2008-08-04 8:19 ` Alan Cox
2008-08-04 13:51 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-08-04 14:11 ` Alan Cox
2008-08-04 16:38 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-08-04 16:58 ` Keith Packard
2008-08-04 21:46 ` Ingo Oeser
2008-08-04 22:20 ` Dave Airlie
2008-08-05 0:34 ` Keith Packard
2008-08-11 1:23 ` [PATCH] Export shmem_file_setup and shmem_getpage for DRM-GEM Christoph Hellwig
2008-08-11 3:03 ` [PATCH] Export shmem_file_setup " Keith Packard
2008-08-04 1:54 ` [PATCH] Export shmem_file_setup and shmem_getpage " Keith Packard
2008-08-04 9:02 ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-04 10:26 ` Keith Packard
2008-08-04 10:43 ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-04 11:45 ` Keith Packard
2008-08-04 17:09 ` Hugh Dickins
2008-08-04 17:25 ` Keith Packard
2008-08-04 18:39 ` Hugh Dickins
2008-08-04 19:20 ` Keith Packard
2008-08-04 19:55 ` Hugh Dickins
2008-08-04 21:37 ` Keith Packard
2008-08-05 2:25 ` John Stoffel
2008-08-05 4:28 ` Keith Packard [this message]
2008-08-06 16:20 ` Stephane Marchesin
2008-08-06 17:24 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-08-06 17:32 ` Stephane Marchesin
2008-08-06 17:56 ` Keith Packard
2008-08-06 18:09 ` Stephane Marchesin
2008-08-06 21:22 ` Keith Packard
2008-08-07 2:16 ` Stephane Marchesin
2008-08-07 2:57 ` Keith Packard
2008-08-11 1:34 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-08-05 4:28 ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-11 1:30 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-08-04 21:58 ` Keith Packard
2008-08-04 22:22 ` Dave Airlie
2008-08-05 4:43 ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-05 5:19 ` Keith Packard
2008-08-07 0:45 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-08-19 1:17 ` Dave Airlie
2008-08-19 10:00 ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-19 16:46 ` Keith Packard
2008-08-19 18:50 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-08-21 13:42 ` Jerome Glisse
2008-08-21 16:15 ` Jesse Barnes
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