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From: "Stephane Marchesin" <marchesin@icps.u-strasbg.fr>
To: "Keith Packard" <keithp@keithp.com>
Cc: "Arjan van de Ven" <arjan@infradead.org>,
	"John Stoffel" <john@stoffel.org>,
	"Hugh Dickins" <hugh@veritas.com>,
	"Nick Piggin" <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	"Christoph Hellwig" <hch@infradead.org>,
	"Eric Anholt" <eric@anholt.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Export shmem_file_setup and shmem_getpage for DRM-GEM
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 20:09:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6a89f9d50808061109y3e68f0a0lc9b4bf289fd308cf@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1218045409.24714.257.camel@koto.keithp.com>

On 8/6/08, Keith Packard <keithp@keithp.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-08-06 at 19:32 +0200, Stephane Marchesin wrote:
>
>  > Right, but the current code will basically force the discrete card
>  > drivers to implement backing store for all allocations.
>
>
> Aside from not really forcing discrete card drivers to to anything
>  (they're welcome to use or not use this stuff as they prefer), I believe
>  discrete cards will need backing store to support paging objects to disk
>  and suspend-to-ram operations.

Well there is no real other clean way than backing store...

>
>
>  >  Do we want
>  > this ? Also, for cards that can handle page-based memory allocations,
>  > there is no way to make use of this feature, do we want this too ?
>
>
> I don't see how any of the current code directs how future drivers might
>  work; the user-level interface is reasonably abstract and should allow
>  all kinds of internal organizations.
>
>  Instead of complaining that the current code might not support some
>  abstract hardware, please build something that does work and we'll see
>  how to merge that with code for other drivers.
>

Well, this "abstract hardware" is in stores, it's called G80 and R600.
If intel can't do something on its hardware shouldn't prevent others
from using it. And I seriously doubt even the current interfaces would
be fit for this.

Stephane

  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-06 18:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-01  6:58 [PATCH] PCI: Add pci_read_base() API Eric Anholt
2008-08-01  6:58 ` [PATCH] Export shmem_file_setup and shmem_getpage for DRM-GEM Eric Anholt
2008-08-01  6:58   ` [PATCH] drm: Add GEM ("graphics execution manager") to i915 driver Eric Anholt
2008-08-01 15:44     ` Randy Dunlap
2008-08-01 18:11       ` Keith Packard
2008-08-06  1:11       ` Eric Anholt
2008-08-01  7:10   ` [PATCH] Export shmem_file_setup and shmem_getpage for DRM-GEM Eric Anholt
2008-08-01 10:57   ` Hugh Dickins
2008-08-01 18:06     ` Keith Packard
2008-08-01 20:50   ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-08-01 23:01     ` Keith Packard
2008-08-03 12:49       ` John Stoffel
2008-08-03 17:52         ` Keith Packard
2008-08-03 23:35           ` files/process scaling problem? (was: [PATCH] Export shmem_file_setup and shmem_getpage for DRM-GEM) Ingo Oeser
2008-08-04  0:19             ` Keith Packard
2008-08-04  8:19               ` Alan Cox
2008-08-04 13:51                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-08-04 14:11                   ` Alan Cox
2008-08-04 16:38                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-08-04 16:58                     ` Keith Packard
2008-08-04 21:46                       ` Ingo Oeser
2008-08-04 22:20                         ` Dave Airlie
2008-08-05  0:34                         ` Keith Packard
2008-08-11  1:23       ` [PATCH] Export shmem_file_setup and shmem_getpage for DRM-GEM Christoph Hellwig
2008-08-11  3:03         ` [PATCH] Export shmem_file_setup " Keith Packard
2008-08-04  1:54     ` [PATCH] Export shmem_file_setup and shmem_getpage " Keith Packard
2008-08-04  9:02       ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-04 10:26         ` Keith Packard
2008-08-04 10:43           ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-04 11:45             ` Keith Packard
2008-08-04 17:09               ` Hugh Dickins
2008-08-04 17:25                 ` Keith Packard
2008-08-04 18:39                   ` Hugh Dickins
2008-08-04 19:20                     ` Keith Packard
2008-08-04 19:55                       ` Hugh Dickins
2008-08-04 21:37                         ` Keith Packard
2008-08-05  2:25                         ` John Stoffel
2008-08-05  4:28                           ` Keith Packard
2008-08-06 16:20                             ` Stephane Marchesin
2008-08-06 17:24                               ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-08-06 17:32                                 ` Stephane Marchesin
2008-08-06 17:56                                   ` Keith Packard
2008-08-06 18:09                                     ` Stephane Marchesin [this message]
2008-08-06 21:22                                       ` Keith Packard
2008-08-07  2:16                                 ` Stephane Marchesin
2008-08-07  2:57                                   ` Keith Packard
2008-08-11  1:34                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-08-05  4:28                 ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-11  1:30                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-08-04 21:58         ` Keith Packard
2008-08-04 22:22           ` Dave Airlie
2008-08-05  4:43           ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-05  5:19             ` Keith Packard
2008-08-07  0:45             ` Jesse Barnes
2008-08-19  1:17             ` Dave Airlie
2008-08-19 10:00               ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-19 16:46                 ` Keith Packard
2008-08-19 18:50                   ` Jesse Barnes
2008-08-21 13:42                     ` Jerome Glisse
2008-08-21 16:15                       ` Jesse Barnes

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