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From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To: David VomLehn <dvomlehn@cisco.com>
Cc: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>,
	alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux USB Mailing List <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Embedded Mailing List <linux-embedded@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: Wait for console to become available, v3.2
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 18:41:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1240335665.3632.71.camel@macbook.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090421172929.GC8251@cuplxvomd02.corp.sa.net>

On Tue, 2009-04-21 at 10:29 -0700, David VomLehn wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 06:11:11PM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
> ...
> > The kernel output is going to be spewed when a console registers with
> > CON_PRINTBUFFER anyway, and if we printk a warning about userspace
> > console output being lost, that ought to be good enough to notify the
> > user that something may have been lost. For bonus points, we could even
> > make that 'dummy' tty driver buffer a limited amount of userspace
> > output, maybe.
> 
> What in the world are users going to do when they see a message about
> output being lost? There is no way to recover the data and no way to
> prevent it in the future. I don't think this is a good approach.
> 
> Remember, even though the previous functionality of USB consoles was, in
> theory, less reliable than it appeared, it actually has been working well
> for years. Thus, tossing output will count as a regression for most of the
> world.

So implement a small amount of buffering, as I suggested, and it should
be sufficient to cover the cases that were only working before by blind
luck anyway.

-- 
David Woodhouse                            Open Source Technology Centre
David.Woodhouse@intel.com                              Intel Corporation


  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-04-21 17:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-20 23:40 David VomLehn
2009-04-21  6:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-21  7:13   ` David Brownell
2009-04-21  8:03     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-21 17:11     ` David Woodhouse
2009-04-21 17:29       ` David VomLehn
2009-04-21 17:37         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-21 17:59           ` David VomLehn
2009-04-21 17:41         ` David Woodhouse [this message]
2009-04-21 17:31       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-21 19:25         ` Alan Cox
2009-04-21 23:17           ` David VomLehn
2009-04-22  8:25         ` Jamie Lokier
2009-04-22  9:11           ` Alan Cox
2009-04-22 10:39             ` Jamie Lokier
2009-04-21 13:35   ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-04-21 13:50     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-21 14:05       ` Jamie Lokier
2009-04-21 14:26         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-21 14:37           ` Alan Cox
2009-04-22  8:22             ` Jamie Lokier
2009-04-22  9:13               ` Alan Cox
2009-04-21 16:42           ` David VomLehn
2009-04-21 14:36         ` Alan Stern
2009-04-21 16:52           ` David VomLehn
2009-04-21 19:09             ` Alan Stern
2009-04-21 23:08               ` David VomLehn
2009-04-22 15:40                 ` Alan Stern
2009-04-22 20:54                   ` David VomLehn
2009-04-22 21:08                     ` Alan Cox
2009-04-22 21:24                       ` Alan Stern
2009-04-24  0:35                         ` David VomLehn
2009-04-24 19:20                           ` Alan Stern
2009-04-24 21:32                             ` David VomLehn
2009-04-24 22:19                               ` Jamie Lokier
2009-04-24 23:10                                 ` David VomLehn
2009-04-25  1:41                                   ` Jamie Lokier
2009-04-25  3:11                                     ` Alan Stern
2009-04-26 19:52                                       ` Jamie Lokier
2009-04-26 21:20                                         ` Alan Stern
2009-04-26 21:37                                           ` Jamie Lokier
2009-04-26 22:36                                             ` Kay Sievers
2009-04-26 23:12                                               ` Jamie Lokier
2009-04-26 23:23                                                 ` Kay Sievers
2009-04-26 23:46                                                   ` Jamie Lokier
2009-04-26 17:55                                     ` David VomLehn
2009-04-22  5:35               ` David VomLehn

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