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From: Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, Ben Dooks <ben-linux@fluff.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk,
	David John <davidjon@xenontk.org>, Erik Mouw <mouw@nl.linux.org>,
	kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Krzysztof Halasa <khc@pm.waw.pl>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add "L: linux-arm@vger.kernel.org" to ARM sections
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 03:16:33 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1250158593.28285.23.camel@Joe-Laptop.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090813094736.GZ6132@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>

On Thu, 2009-08-13 at 10:47 +0100, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> These lists have _TWO_ admins.  Fact: Everyone only talks to me
> about problems with these lists.  Fact: they do not copy Erik.

Erik isn't listed in MAINTAINERS.  You are.
Erik doesn't post much to lkml.  You do.

> Humans are, at the end of the day, bone idle lazy creatures.

Which is why we invent tools to work for us.

Humans tend to reuse and improve the tools that work best.
Your ARM based mail tool has caused some to do more work
than they would like, so they would like to use a better
tool.

> I believe it's about jealousness and resentment.

You use high emotion words unnecessarily.

I believe it's about the very human desire to be lazy.

I believe very few care very much if vger.kernel.org or
arm.linux.org.uk is the list server.  I don't.  I just
want my email to get through.

And I still don't want to subscribe.

If you want to improve ARM, I think you and Erik should
improve your mail tool chest.  Perhaps copy the spam filter
mechanisms used by vger.  It's not a secret how it's done.

Reduce the probability of forwarding spam, open the list,
remove "(subscribers-only)" from the ARM MAINTAINERS entries
and I'd be good-to-go.

cheers, Joe


  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-08-13 10:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.3653.1249217530.31043.linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk>
2009-08-04 10:00 ` linux-arm-kernel useless for development (was Re: Your message to Linux-arm-kernel awaits moderator approval) Pavel Machek
2009-08-04 22:28   ` Russell King
2009-08-06 10:07     ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-06 10:44       ` Russell King
2009-08-06 11:02         ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-06 11:55           ` Russell King
2009-08-14 11:06             ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-06 12:04           ` Erik Mouw
2009-08-14 11:07             ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-04 22:39   ` Russell King
2009-08-06 10:57     ` Erik Mouw
2009-08-06 11:31       ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-06 12:08         ` Russell King
2009-08-06 12:29           ` David John
2009-08-06 12:40             ` Russell King
2009-08-06 13:02               ` Joe Perches
2009-08-06 13:33                 ` Russell King
2009-08-06 13:52                   ` David John
2009-08-06 14:23                   ` [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add "L: linux-arm@vger.kernel.org" to ARM sections Joe Perches
2009-08-06 15:03                     ` Ben Dooks
2009-08-06 15:14                       ` Joe Perches
2009-08-06 15:23                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-06 16:18                       ` Joe Perches
2009-08-06 16:40                         ` Russell King
2009-08-06 16:53                           ` Joe Perches
2009-08-08 10:55                           ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-10 23:49                       ` Joe Perches
2009-08-11 10:33                         ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-08-12 11:55                         ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-12 19:48                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-12 20:17                             ` Pekka Enberg
2009-08-12 21:25                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-12 22:00                                 ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-12 22:43                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-12 22:04                                 ` David Miller
2009-08-13  1:18                                 ` Joe Perches
2009-08-13  7:38                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-13  8:59                                     ` Joe Perches
2009-08-14  0:58                                   ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-14  5:15                                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-08-13  9:35                                 ` Alan Cox
2009-08-13  9:47                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-13  9:54                                     ` Alan Cox
2009-08-13  9:58                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-13 10:12                                         ` Alan Cox
2009-08-13 10:02                                     ` Pekka Enberg
2009-08-13 10:16                                     ` Joe Perches [this message]
2009-08-13 10:35                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-13 11:01                                         ` [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Change ARM "subscriber-only" lists to "moderated for non-subscribers" Joe Perches
2009-08-13 13:18                                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-13 11:08                                         ` [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add "L: linux-arm@vger.kernel.org" to ARM sections Joe Perches
2009-08-13 11:54                                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-13 12:16                                             ` Joe Perches
2009-08-13 13:17                                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-13 13:33                                             ` Catalin Marinas
2009-08-13 21:07                                             ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-14  7:59                                             ` Daniel Mack
2009-08-14  9:18                                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-14 10:01                                                 ` Daniel Silverstone
2009-08-14 16:39                                                   ` [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add "L: linux-arm@vger.kernel.org" to ARMsections H Hartley Sweeten
2009-08-14 10:01                                                 ` [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add "L: linux-arm@vger.kernel.org" to ARM sections Catalin Marinas
2009-08-14 15:47                                                   ` Kevin Hilman
2009-08-14 11:25                                                 ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-14 11:18                                         ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-14 11:16                                     ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-14 19:37                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-14 20:43                                         ` Joe Perches
2009-08-12 22:01                             ` David Miller
2009-08-12 23:04                             ` Catalin Marinas
2009-08-12 23:22                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-13  0:48                                 ` Marek Vasut
2009-08-08 10:45                   ` linux-arm-kernel useless for development (was Re: Your message to Linux-arm-kernel awaits moderator approval) Pavel Machek
2009-08-08 10:42                 ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-06 13:17               ` David John
2009-08-06 12:15         ` Erik Mouw
2009-08-08 10:40           ` Pavel Machek

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