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From: Zhang Rui <rui.zhang@intel.com>
To: Frans Pop <elendil@planet.nl>
Cc: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>,
	"linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/6] thermal: add sanity check for the passive attribute
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 16:33:50 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1251707630.3483.181.camel@rzhang-dt> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200908261848.29897.elendil@planet.nl>

On Thu, 2009-08-27 at 00:48 +0800, Frans Pop wrote:
> On Wednesday 26 August 2009, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 06:17:23PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> > > Values below 40000 milli-celsius (limit is somewhat arbitrary)
> > > don't make sense and can cause the system to go into a thermal
> > > heart attack: the actual temperature will always be lower and
> > > thus the system will be throttled down to its lowest setting.
> >
> > Not keen on this - it's a pretty arbitrary cutoff, and there are some
> > cases where someone might want this value. Policy belongs in userspace,
> > and all that.
> 
> What cases do you see? Testing? Or systems that might have to operate at 
> such a low temperature? I deliberately chose a value that's at a level 
> that's easy to reach.
> 
> I agree it is arbitrary, but it will prevent major confusion when someone 
> like me echo's 95 directly in sysfs.

this is a problem.
how about something like:
#define THERMAL_PASSIVE_WARNING_LEVEL 0x40000

if (state < THERMAL_PASSIVE_WARNING_LEVEL)
   printk(KERN_WARNING PREFIX "Passive trip point too low, this may"
          "slow down your laptop because processors are throttled "
          "whenever the temperature is higher than %dC\n", state/1000);

thanks,
rui

> Would 1000 (1 °C) perhaps be more acceptable as a limit? I doubt there are 
> valid use-cases for below 0 temps :-)


  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-31  8:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-26 16:17 [PATCH 0/6] thermal: improvements re. forced passive cooling Frans Pop
2009-08-26 16:17 ` [PATCH 1/6] thermal: sysfs-api.txt - reformat for improved readability Frans Pop
2009-08-26 16:17 ` [PATCH 2/6] thermal: sysfs-api.txt - document passive attribute for thermal zones Frans Pop
2009-08-31  8:18   ` Zhang Rui
2009-08-31 11:19     ` Frans Pop
2009-09-01  0:44       ` Zhang Rui
2009-09-02 20:02         ` Pavel Machek
2009-09-03 14:34           ` Frans Pop
2009-08-26 16:17 ` [PATCH 3/6] acpi: thermal: display forced passive trip points in proc Frans Pop
2009-08-31  8:20   ` Zhang Rui
2009-08-26 16:17 ` [PATCH 4/6] thermal: add sanity check for the passive attribute Frans Pop
2009-08-26 16:23   ` Matthew Garrett
2009-08-26 16:48     ` Frans Pop
2009-08-31  8:33       ` Zhang Rui [this message]
2009-08-31 10:30         ` Frans Pop
2009-09-03  6:10           ` Zhang Rui
2009-09-03 14:33             ` [PATCH 4/6,v2] " Frans Pop
2009-08-26 16:17 ` [PATCH 5/6] thermal: Only set passive_delay for forced passive cooling Frans Pop
2009-08-26 16:25   ` Matthew Garrett
2009-09-10 16:07     ` Frans Pop
2009-09-10 16:15       ` Matthew Garrett
2009-08-26 16:17 ` [PATCH 6/6] thermal: disable polling if passive_delay and polling_delay are both unset Frans Pop
2009-08-26 16:25   ` Matthew Garrett
2009-10-26  7:38 [PATCH 0/6] [resend] thermal: improvements re. forced passive cooling Frans Pop
2009-10-26  7:39 ` [PATCH 4/6] thermal: add sanity check for the passive attribute Frans Pop

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