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From: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
To: Tilman Schmidt <tilman@imap.cc>
Cc: Jarek Poplawski <jarkao2@gmail.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	hidave.darkstar@gmail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	tglx@linutronix.de, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-ppp@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	paulus@samba.org, Michael Buesch <mb@bu3sch.de>,
	Oliver Hartkopp <oliver@hartkopp.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] net: Adjust softirq raising in __napi_schedule
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 08:01:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1256626900.4237.2.camel@johannes.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4AE64441.7060008@imap.cc>

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On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 01:52 +0100, Tilman Schmidt wrote:

> > Any code (say ISDN code) that calls netif_rx() is clearly assuming to
> > always be running in (soft)irq context, otherwise it couldn't call
> > netif_rx() unconditionally. Agree so far?
> 
> Well, in fact I'm not sure. :-) All I know is that in the ISDN case, no
> such assumption is explicitly stated anywhere. (The code in question is
> called from the rcvcallb_skb() callback method which the hardware driver
> calls when data has been received, and the description of that method in
> Documentation/isdn/INTERFACE does not say anything about the context in
> which it may be called.) The relevant code in drivers/isdn/i4l/isdn_ppp.c
> is rather old, perhaps even older than softirqs and the netif_rx() /
> netif_rx_ni() split. (Bear in mind that we are talking about the old
> ISDN4Linux subsystem which initially didn't even make it into the 2.6
> series because it was considered obsolete.) It seems quite possible to me
> that just no one ever thought about that question.

Heh :)

> > So now if you change the ISDN code to call netif_rx_ni(), you've changed
> > the assumption that the ISDN code makes -- that it is running in
> > (soft)irq context. Therefore, you need to verify that this is actually a
> > correct change, which is what I tried to say.
> 
> Understood. However, the fact that the local_softirq_pending message is
> appearing would seem to indicate that this assumption was wrong to
> begin with, wouldn't it?

I thought it only recently started appearing with a new driver or
something, but I may have misunderstood you. Anyway, I think that sums
up the issue from my POV.

johannes

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-10-27  7:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-11  9:52 NOHZ: local_softirq_pending 08 Dave Young
2009-10-11 10:08 ` Johannes Berg
2009-10-11 10:17   ` Michael Buesch
2009-10-11 10:37     ` Johannes Berg
2009-10-11 10:38     ` David Miller
2009-10-11 10:55   ` Dave Young
2009-10-11 11:18   ` Tilman Schmidt
2009-10-11 11:40     ` Johannes Berg
2009-10-12  8:28       ` Tilman Schmidt
2009-10-12 10:32         ` David Miller
2009-10-12 11:25           ` Tilman Schmidt
2009-10-15 11:40             ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-10-15 17:53               ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-10-21 18:46                 ` Tilman Schmidt
2009-10-21 21:19                   ` [PATCH] net: Adjust softirq raising in __napi_schedule Jarek Poplawski
2009-10-21 21:25                     ` Johannes Berg
2009-10-21 21:37                       ` Tilman Schmidt
2009-10-21 21:39                       ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-10-22  8:27                         ` Johannes Berg
2009-10-23 14:39                           ` Tilman Schmidt
2009-10-23 14:46                             ` Johannes Berg
2009-10-26  7:41                               ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-10-26  7:44                                 ` Johannes Berg
2009-10-26  7:54                                   ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-10-26  7:58                                     ` Johannes Berg
2009-10-26  8:47                                       ` Tilman Schmidt
2009-10-26  8:56                                         ` Johannes Berg
2009-10-27  0:52                                           ` Tilman Schmidt
2009-10-27  7:01                                             ` Johannes Berg [this message]
2009-10-22 11:29                         ` David Miller
2009-10-22 12:54                           ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-10-22 23:37                   ` NOHZ: local_softirq_pending 08 Tilman Schmidt
2009-10-23 13:34                     ` Johannes Berg
2009-10-23 14:27                       ` Tilman Schmidt
2009-10-23 14:31                         ` Johannes Berg
2009-10-23 16:33                           ` Tilman Schmidt
2009-10-11 16:39 ` Joe Korty

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