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From: Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>
To: Pavan Savoy <pavan_savoy@yahoo.co.in>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>, Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>,
	PavanSavoy <pavan_savoy@ti.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/6] drivers:misc: sources for Init manager module
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:54:04 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1269464044.11714.135.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <538832.38767.qm@web94915.mail.in2.yahoo.com>

Hi Pavan,

> > > Which puts me back to square 1,
> > the requirement is TTY device should be open, only when
> > either BT, FM or GPS would want to use it.
> > > [with your patch one of the steps of installing ldisc
> > would be reduced upon opening].
> > 
> > Perhaps but its up to you how you write your low level
> > driver and how the
> > ldisc indicates it wishes to be active (eg speed B0 is used
> > to indicate
> > 'no carrier' in many cases)
> > 
> > > Actually why do I even need a TTY device in this case
> > - right ?
> > > ldisc driver can do the tty->ops->write and
> > tty_read and put it up on different interfaces like
> > eth0/hci0 or /dev/radio0 etc..
> > 
> > You don't need a tty if you are simply demuxing some kind
> > of stream of
> > bytes to/from the hardware and you gain nothing from the
> > tty layer and
> > user space interfaces such as control signal and speed
> > setting.
> > 
> 
> I still want to maintain this as a ldisc driver and the TTY layer is still required to be able to use this with different sort of serial drivers.
> 
> example:
> We do a have a system here where both 8250/omap-serial co-exist creating their own device nodes (ttyS for 8250, ttyO for omap-serial) and I would want to be able to on boot suggest which serial driver to use, so I can open/install ldisc on ttyS or on ttyO.
> 
> 
> > That may be even cleaner in your case as you can then then
> > provide
> > suitable links between your demux and the drivers attached
> > to it
> > indicating when they should be on or off.
> 
> And as Marcel suggested, can't really put in the PM/UART-clk shut off code in ldisc driver because few of these driver provide interfaces and few don't.
> 
> So is there no way this can be accepted with the sysfs entry way of communication ?

to be quite honest, I can't see how that can be accepted right now. It
looks wrong on too many levels.

Regards

Marcel



  reply	other threads:[~2010-03-24 20:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-22 21:19 [re-worked] New ldisc for WiLink7.0 pavan_savoy
2010-03-22 21:19 ` [PATCH 1/6] serial: TTY: new ldisc for TI BT/FM/GPS chips pavan_savoy
2010-03-22 21:19   ` [PATCH 2/6] drivers:misc: Kconfig, Makefile for TI's ST ldisc pavan_savoy
2010-03-22 21:19     ` [PATCH 3/6] drivers:misc: sources for ST core pavan_savoy
2010-03-22 21:19       ` [PATCH 4/6] drivers:misc: sources for Init manager module pavan_savoy
2010-03-22 21:19         ` [PATCH 5/6] drivers:misc: sources for HCI LL PM protocol pavan_savoy
2010-03-22 21:19           ` [PATCH 6/6] drivers:misc: sources for ST header file pavan_savoy
2010-03-22 21:36         ` [PATCH 4/6] drivers:misc: sources for Init manager module Greg KH
2010-03-22 22:03           ` Savoy, Pavan
2010-03-24  2:23             ` Greg KH
2010-03-24  8:04               ` Marcel Holtmann
2010-03-24 14:54                 ` Pavan Savoy
2010-03-24 15:52                   ` Greg KH
2010-03-24 16:11                   ` Marcel Holtmann
2010-03-24 16:22                     ` Pavan Savoy
2010-03-24 16:38                       ` Marcel Holtmann
2010-03-24 16:39                         ` Randy Dunlap
2010-03-24 16:54                         ` Pavan Savoy
2010-03-24 17:03                           ` Alan Cox
2010-03-24 17:09                             ` Pavan Savoy
2010-03-24 17:26                               ` Alan Cox
2010-03-24 17:32                                 ` Pavan Savoy
2010-03-24 17:39                                   ` Alan Cox
2010-03-24 18:46                                     ` Pavan Savoy
2010-03-24 20:54                                       ` Marcel Holtmann [this message]
2010-03-24 21:03                                         ` Pavan Savoy
2010-03-24 17:15                           ` Marcel Holtmann
2010-03-24 17:42                             ` Pavan Savoy
2010-03-24 20:59                               ` Marcel Holtmann
2010-03-24 16:58                       ` Alan Cox
2010-03-24 16:56                         ` Pavan Savoy
2010-03-24 16:26                     ` Greg KH
2010-03-24 16:35                       ` Pavan Savoy
2010-03-24 16:52                         ` Greg KH
2010-03-24 17:05                           ` Pavan Savoy
2010-03-24 17:20                             ` Alan Cox
2010-03-22 21:34       ` [PATCH 3/6] drivers:misc: sources for ST core Greg KH
2010-03-23 15:24       ` Alan Cox
2010-03-22 21:34     ` [PATCH 2/6] drivers:misc: Kconfig, Makefile for TI's ST ldisc Greg KH
2010-03-22 21:35     ` Greg KH
2010-03-23  0:07       ` Tilman Schmidt
2010-03-23 15:18       ` Alan Cox
2010-03-24  2:19         ` Greg KH
2010-03-22 21:45     ` Randy Dunlap
2010-03-22 22:37       ` Savoy, Pavan
2010-03-22 22:49         ` Randy Dunlap
2010-03-23 15:20   ` [PATCH 1/6] serial: TTY: new ldisc for TI BT/FM/GPS chips Alan Cox
     [not found] <1269466536.11714.144.camel@localhost.localdomain>
2010-03-24 21:46 ` [PATCH 4/6] drivers:misc: sources for Init manager module Pavan Savoy

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