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From: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>
To: "William A. (Andy) Adamson" <androsadamson@gmail.com>
Cc: Lukas Hejtmanek <xhejtman@ics.muni.cz>,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, salvet@ics.muni.cz
Subject: Re: Deadlock in NFSv4 in all kernels
Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 10:29:45 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1274797785.5377.50.camel@heimdal.trondhjem.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimfHrXViu0Zm75i4cFED7pXqAvv2edmKRpIi4me@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 10:10 -0400, William A. (Andy) Adamson wrote: 
> 2010/5/25 Lukas Hejtmanek <xhejtman@ics.muni.cz>:
> > On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 09:45:32AM -0400, William A. (Andy) Adamson wrote:
> >> Not get into the problem in the first place: this means
> >>
> >> 1) determine a 'lead time' where the NFS client declares a context
> >> expired even though it really as 'lead time' until it actually
> >> expires.
> >>
> >> 2) flush all writes on any contex that will expire within the lead
> >> time which needs to be long enough for flushes to take place.
> >
> > I think you cannot give any guarantees that the flush happens on time. There
> > can be server overload, network overload, anything and you are out of luck.
> 
> True - but this will be the case no matter what scheme is in place.
> The above is to handle the normal working situation. When this fails
> due to network, server overload, server reboot, i.e. not-normal
> situation, then use the machine credential.

Use of the machine credential also requires help from the rpc.gssd
daemon. It's not a solution to the deadlock Lukas is describing.

Trond


  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-25 14:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-07 15:39 Lukas Hejtmanek
2010-05-24 21:24 ` Pavel Machek
2010-05-25 12:28   ` Trond Myklebust
2010-05-25 12:58     ` Lukas Hejtmanek
2010-05-25 13:39       ` Trond Myklebust
2010-05-25 14:07         ` Zdenek Salvet
2010-05-25 17:10     ` Sunil Mushran
2010-05-25 13:45 ` William A. (Andy) Adamson
2010-05-25 14:02   ` Lukas Hejtmanek
2010-05-25 14:10     ` William A. (Andy) Adamson
2010-05-25 14:29       ` Trond Myklebust [this message]
2010-05-25 14:04   ` Trond Myklebust

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