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* What's the relationship between Linux driver running priority and FIFO policy?
@ 2010-07-01  5:21 Zhang, Yongchao (GE Healthcare)
  2010-07-01  7:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 2+ messages in thread
From: Zhang, Yongchao (GE Healthcare) @ 2010-07-01  5:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel

Hi
  I have a question disturb me very much.
  You know linux FIFO policy is common,and also there are many drivers
running in system,so
  which level are these drivers running on? If I have a progrom which
priority is FIFO99, does it disturb the driver running?
  I want know which level does drivers running on? For example, driver
running on FIFOXX? and how does linux schedule on this 
  case?
 
Thanks!
Best Regards!
 
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ZhangYongChao
2010.07.01
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* Re: What's the relationship between Linux driver running priority and FIFO policy?
  2010-07-01  5:21 What's the relationship between Linux driver running priority and FIFO policy? Zhang, Yongchao (GE Healthcare)
@ 2010-07-01  7:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 2+ messages in thread
From: Peter Zijlstra @ 2010-07-01  7:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Zhang, Yongchao (GE Healthcare); +Cc: linux-kernel

On Thu, 2010-07-01 at 13:21 +0800, Zhang, Yongchao (GE Healthcare)
wrote:
> Hi
>   I have a question disturb me very much.
>   You know linux FIFO policy is common,and also there are many drivers
> running in system,so
>   which level are these drivers running on? If I have a progrom which
> priority is FIFO99, does it disturb the driver running?
>   I want know which level does drivers running on? For example, driver
> running on FIFOXX? and how does linux schedule on this 
>   case?
>  

Fully depends on what a driver is and what you expect it to. If part of
the driver consists of a (or multiple) kernel thread, and that thread
has lower priority than FIFO99 (very typical) then of course.

If the driver is a pure IRQ driven thingy, then no, since hardirq
context will still preempt any task context.

Of course, if whatever proglet is talking to the driver is running at a
lower priority, that will get starved and your driver might again not
make any progress because all its queues are filled (incomming) or empty
(outgoing).

In general having a FIFO99 task around that consumes unbounded amounts
of cpu time is not something that is healthy for the system and it not
something I can recommend.

The Real-Time classes (FIFO/RR) are designed for deterministic programs
with bounded runtime. Things like spinning in userspace are very bad for
a number of reasons (which nevertheless doesn't seem to stop people from
doing just that).

The only answer that I can give you is: don't do that.

As to how Linux schedules, the scheduler is concerned only with tasks;
it will run the highest priority FIFO/RR task available, if there are no
FIFO/RR tasks present it will run SCHED_OTHER tasks, for those it will
divide the remaining time fairly based on their nice value (which is
mapped to a weight).

Interrupts -- at a hardware level -- interrupt task context and are thus
always ran whenever they happen.

That's all, there's really nothing more to it.

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