From: Pantelis Koukousoulas <pktoss@gmail.com>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Kernel development list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>,
Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Subject: Re: How to tell whether a struct file is held by a process?
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 16:52:23 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1295ed070905220652q55c65e8bx992940b626eecda3@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090522144343.7b26b3a8@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> wrote:
>> Suppose a device needs a reset as part of its init sequence (a whole lot
>> of them do, this is not purely hypothetical). Then a different process may
>> get to operate the device before and after the reset and hilarity may result
>> from that.
>
> Thats surely up to you to get your lock file usage right. The kernel
> isn't there to play mother to crap programming.
Who is "me" in this case? Assuming that those writing the userspace programs
are cooperative though, I agree. We can declare that whatever program does not
play by the (userspace locking) rules is crap and either fix it (if open source)
or refuse to install it / complain (if closed source).
>
>> So, if there is a clean / acceptable way to handle the reset issue in userspace
>
> Firstly can you explain *why* you think there is a problem ?
>
I admit this could be a bias from the way I imagined the whole thing
to work before
this discussion. I think I can see how a userspace locking scheme based on port
numbers could avoid also the reset problem.
Thanks,
Pantelis
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-05-22 13:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-05-19 16:57 Alan Stern
2009-05-21 9:52 ` Al Viro
2009-05-21 14:06 ` Alan Stern
2009-05-21 21:07 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-21 21:27 ` Alan Stern
2009-05-22 13:30 ` Pantelis Koukousoulas
2009-05-22 13:38 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-05-22 13:43 ` Alan Cox
2009-05-22 13:52 ` Pantelis Koukousoulas [this message]
2009-05-22 14:12 ` Alan Cox
2009-05-22 14:29 ` Pantelis Koukousoulas
2009-05-21 22:14 ` Alan Cox
2009-05-22 1:28 ` Kyle Moffett
2009-05-22 9:53 ` Alan Cox
2009-05-22 15:12 ` Alan Stern
2009-05-22 15:20 ` Alan Cox
2009-05-22 16:04 ` Alan Stern
2009-05-22 16:23 ` Pantelis Koukousoulas
2009-05-22 18:19 ` Alan Stern
2009-05-22 15:21 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-22 15:54 ` Alan Stern
2009-05-22 18:24 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-22 18:48 ` Pantelis Koukousoulas
2009-05-22 19:31 ` Alan Stern
2009-05-22 21:54 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-22 22:07 ` Alan Stern
2009-05-23 22:47 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-22 8:36 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-05-21 22:22 ` Alan Cox
2009-05-22 12:26 ` Oliver Neukum
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