From: "Edgecombe, Rick P" <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>
To: "seanjc@google.com" <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: "kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
"pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Annapurve, Vishal" <vannapurve@google.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Zhao, Yan Y" <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>,
"michael.roth@amd.com" <michael.roth@amd.com>,
"Weiny, Ira" <ira.weiny@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 09/12] KVM: TDX: Fold tdx_mem_page_record_premap_cnt() into its sole caller
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2025 23:17:17 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <12b2b02b58b2262cf58f047a40c9af1d11bb09e7.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aLDQ09FP0uX3eJvC@google.com>
On Thu, 2025-08-28 at 14:57 -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> Agreed, and it would eliminate the need for a "flags" argument. But keeping it
> in the mmu_lock critical section means KVM can WARN on failures. If it's moved
> out, then zapping S-EPT entries could induce failure, and I don't think it's
> worth going through the effort to ensure it's impossible to trigger S-EPT removal.
>
> Note, temoving S-EPT entries during initialization of the image isn't something
> I want to official support, rather it's an endless stream of whack-a-mole due to
> obsurce edge cases
>
> Hmm, actually, maybe I take that back. slots_lock prevents memslot updates,
> filemap_invalidate_lock() prevents guest_memfd updates, and mmu_notifier events
> shouldn't ever hit S-EPT. I was worried about kvm_zap_gfn_range(), but the call
> from sev.c is obviously mutually exclusive, TDX disallows KVM_X86_QUIRK_IGNORE_GUEST_PAT
> so same goes for kvm_noncoherent_dma_assignment_start_or_stop, and
>
Yea, in the other thread Yan was suggesting the same thing from the KVM side:
https://lore.kernel.org/all/aK%2Fsdr2OQqYv9DBZ@yzhao56-desk.sh.intel.com/
But was concerned about "Unexpected zaps" (kvm_zap_gfn_range()). I think maybe
we could think about KVM_BUG_ON() in the case of mirror EPT to cover it from
another angle. IIRC we discussed this at some point.
I was wondering about TDH.MR.EXTEND error conditions. Coming back now, I'm not
sure what I was thinking.
> while I'm 99% certain there's a way to trip __kvm_set_or_clear_apicv_inhibit(),
> the APIC page has its own non-guest_memfd memslot and so can't be used for the
> initial image, which means that too is mutually exclusive.
Hmm, well maybe KVM_BUG_ON() for kvm_zap_gfn_range() only if this gets
addressed.
>
> So yeah, let's give it a shot. Worst case scenario we're wrong and TDH_MR_EXTEND
> errors can be triggered by userspace.
>
> > But maybe a better reason is that we could better handle errors
> > outside the fault. (i.e. no 5 line comment about why not to return an error in
> > tdx_mem_page_add() due to code in another file).
> >
> > I wonder if Yan can give an analysis of any zapping races if we do that.
>
> As above, I think we're good?
Works for me.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-08-28 23:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-27 0:05 [RFC PATCH 00/12] KVM: x86/mmu: TDX post-populate cleanups Sean Christopherson
2025-08-27 0:05 ` [RFC PATCH 01/12] KVM: TDX: Drop PROVE_MMU=y sanity check on to-be-populated mappings Sean Christopherson
2025-08-27 8:14 ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28 0:37 ` Ira Weiny
2025-08-28 2:13 ` Huang, Kai
2025-08-27 0:05 ` [RFC PATCH 02/12] KVM: x86/mmu: Add dedicated API to map guest_memfd pfn into TDP MMU Sean Christopherson
2025-08-27 8:25 ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28 0:54 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28 1:26 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28 6:23 ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28 19:40 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-29 1:16 ` Yan Zhao
2025-09-01 0:39 ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28 6:55 ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28 0:40 ` Ira Weiny
2025-08-28 1:51 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28 19:57 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-27 0:05 ` [RFC PATCH 03/12] Revert "KVM: x86/tdp_mmu: Add a helper function to walk down the TDP MMU" Sean Christopherson
2025-08-27 0:05 ` [RFC PATCH 04/12] KVM: x86/mmu: Rename kvm_tdp_map_page() to kvm_tdp_prefault_page() Sean Christopherson
2025-08-28 2:01 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28 18:50 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-28 19:04 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-27 0:05 ` [RFC PATCH 05/12] KVM: TDX: Drop superfluous page pinning in S-EPT management Sean Christopherson
2025-08-27 8:33 ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28 2:05 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28 20:16 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-28 0:36 ` Ira Weiny
2025-08-28 7:08 ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28 15:54 ` Ira Weiny
2025-08-28 2:45 ` Huang, Kai
2025-08-27 0:05 ` [RFC PATCH 06/12] KVM: TDX: Return -EIO, not -EINVAL, on a KVM_BUG_ON() condition Sean Christopherson
2025-08-27 8:39 ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-27 17:26 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-28 2:11 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28 19:21 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-28 20:13 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28 21:00 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-28 21:19 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28 21:34 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-28 15:03 ` Ira Weiny
2025-08-27 0:05 ` [RFC PATCH 07/12] KVM: TDX: Avoid a double-KVM_BUG_ON() in tdx_sept_zap_private_spte() Sean Christopherson
2025-08-28 2:19 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28 14:50 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-29 1:10 ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28 15:02 ` Ira Weiny
2025-08-27 0:05 ` [RFC PATCH 08/12] KVM: TDX: Use atomic64_dec_return() instead of a poor equivalent Sean Christopherson
2025-08-28 2:56 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28 6:48 ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28 19:14 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28 22:33 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-28 23:18 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28 15:03 ` Ira Weiny
2025-08-27 0:05 ` [RFC PATCH 09/12] KVM: TDX: Fold tdx_mem_page_record_premap_cnt() into its sole caller Sean Christopherson
2025-08-27 9:02 ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-27 19:08 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-28 3:13 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28 5:56 ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28 19:08 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28 5:43 ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28 17:00 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-28 18:52 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28 20:26 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-28 21:33 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28 21:57 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-28 23:17 ` Edgecombe, Rick P [this message]
2025-08-29 6:08 ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28 22:06 ` Ira Weiny
2025-08-28 23:17 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-29 0:35 ` Ira Weiny
2025-08-29 6:06 ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28 21:44 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-29 2:42 ` Binbin Wu
2025-08-29 2:31 ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-29 6:33 ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28 15:30 ` Ira Weiny
2025-08-28 15:28 ` Ira Weiny
2025-08-27 0:05 ` [RFC PATCH 10/12] KVM: TDX: Assert that slots_lock is held when nr_premapped is accessed Sean Christopherson
2025-08-27 0:05 ` [RFC PATCH 11/12] KVM: TDX: Track nr_premapped as an "unsigned long", not an "atomic64_t" Sean Christopherson
2025-08-27 9:12 ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-27 0:05 ` [RFC PATCH 12/12] KVM: TDX: Rename nr_premapped to nr_pending_tdh_mem_page_adds Sean Christopherson
2025-08-27 9:22 ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28 15:23 ` Ira Weiny
2025-08-27 9:48 ` [RFC PATCH 00/12] KVM: x86/mmu: TDX post-populate cleanups Yan Zhao
2025-08-28 19:01 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28 23:19 ` Sean Christopherson
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