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From: "Edgecombe, Rick P" <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>
To: "seanjc@google.com" <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: "kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Annapurve, Vishal" <vannapurve@google.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Zhao, Yan Y" <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>,
	"michael.roth@amd.com" <michael.roth@amd.com>,
	"Weiny, Ira" <ira.weiny@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 09/12] KVM: TDX: Fold tdx_mem_page_record_premap_cnt() into its sole caller
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2025 23:17:17 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <12b2b02b58b2262cf58f047a40c9af1d11bb09e7.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aLDQ09FP0uX3eJvC@google.com>

On Thu, 2025-08-28 at 14:57 -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> Agreed, and it would eliminate the need for a "flags" argument.  But keeping it
> in the mmu_lock critical section means KVM can WARN on failures.  If it's moved
> out, then zapping S-EPT entries could induce failure, and I don't think it's
> worth going through the effort to ensure it's impossible to trigger S-EPT removal.
> 
> Note, temoving S-EPT entries during initialization of the image isn't something
> I want to official support, rather it's an endless stream of whack-a-mole due to
> obsurce edge cases
> 
> Hmm, actually, maybe I take that back.  slots_lock prevents memslot updates,
> filemap_invalidate_lock() prevents guest_memfd updates, and mmu_notifier events
> shouldn't ever hit S-EPT.  I was worried about kvm_zap_gfn_range(), but the call
> from sev.c is obviously mutually exclusive, TDX disallows KVM_X86_QUIRK_IGNORE_GUEST_PAT
> so same goes for kvm_noncoherent_dma_assignment_start_or_stop, and
> 

Yea, in the other thread Yan was suggesting the same thing from the KVM side:
https://lore.kernel.org/all/aK%2Fsdr2OQqYv9DBZ@yzhao56-desk.sh.intel.com/

But was concerned about "Unexpected zaps" (kvm_zap_gfn_range()). I think maybe
we could think about KVM_BUG_ON() in the case of mirror EPT to cover it from
another angle. IIRC we discussed this at some point.

I was wondering about TDH.MR.EXTEND error conditions. Coming back now, I'm not
sure what I was thinking.

> while I'm 99% certain there's a way to trip __kvm_set_or_clear_apicv_inhibit(),
> the APIC page has its own non-guest_memfd memslot and so can't be used for the
> initial image, which means that too is mutually exclusive.

Hmm, well maybe KVM_BUG_ON() for kvm_zap_gfn_range() only if this gets
addressed.

> 
> So yeah, let's give it a shot.  Worst case scenario we're wrong and TDH_MR_EXTEND
> errors can be triggered by userspace.
> 
> > But maybe a better reason is that we could better handle errors
> > outside the fault. (i.e. no 5 line comment about why not to return an error in
> > tdx_mem_page_add() due to code in another file).
> > 
> > I wonder if Yan can give an analysis of any zapping races if we do that.
> 
> As above, I think we're good?

Works for me.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-28 23:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-27  0:05 [RFC PATCH 00/12] KVM: x86/mmu: TDX post-populate cleanups Sean Christopherson
2025-08-27  0:05 ` [RFC PATCH 01/12] KVM: TDX: Drop PROVE_MMU=y sanity check on to-be-populated mappings Sean Christopherson
2025-08-27  8:14   ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28  0:37   ` Ira Weiny
2025-08-28  2:13   ` Huang, Kai
2025-08-27  0:05 ` [RFC PATCH 02/12] KVM: x86/mmu: Add dedicated API to map guest_memfd pfn into TDP MMU Sean Christopherson
2025-08-27  8:25   ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28  0:54     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28  1:26       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28  6:23         ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28 19:40           ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-29  1:16             ` Yan Zhao
2025-09-01  0:39               ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28  6:55       ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28  0:40   ` Ira Weiny
2025-08-28  1:51     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28 19:57       ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-27  0:05 ` [RFC PATCH 03/12] Revert "KVM: x86/tdp_mmu: Add a helper function to walk down the TDP MMU" Sean Christopherson
2025-08-27  0:05 ` [RFC PATCH 04/12] KVM: x86/mmu: Rename kvm_tdp_map_page() to kvm_tdp_prefault_page() Sean Christopherson
2025-08-28  2:01   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28 18:50     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-28 19:04       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-27  0:05 ` [RFC PATCH 05/12] KVM: TDX: Drop superfluous page pinning in S-EPT management Sean Christopherson
2025-08-27  8:33   ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28  2:05     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28 20:16       ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-28  0:36   ` Ira Weiny
2025-08-28  7:08     ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28 15:54       ` Ira Weiny
2025-08-28  2:45   ` Huang, Kai
2025-08-27  0:05 ` [RFC PATCH 06/12] KVM: TDX: Return -EIO, not -EINVAL, on a KVM_BUG_ON() condition Sean Christopherson
2025-08-27  8:39   ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-27 17:26     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-28  2:11   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28 19:21     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-28 20:13       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28 21:00         ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-28 21:19           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28 21:34             ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-28 15:03   ` Ira Weiny
2025-08-27  0:05 ` [RFC PATCH 07/12] KVM: TDX: Avoid a double-KVM_BUG_ON() in tdx_sept_zap_private_spte() Sean Christopherson
2025-08-28  2:19   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28 14:50     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-29  1:10       ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28 15:02   ` Ira Weiny
2025-08-27  0:05 ` [RFC PATCH 08/12] KVM: TDX: Use atomic64_dec_return() instead of a poor equivalent Sean Christopherson
2025-08-28  2:56   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28  6:48     ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28 19:14       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28 22:33         ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-28 23:18           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28 15:03   ` Ira Weiny
2025-08-27  0:05 ` [RFC PATCH 09/12] KVM: TDX: Fold tdx_mem_page_record_premap_cnt() into its sole caller Sean Christopherson
2025-08-27  9:02   ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-27 19:08     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-28  3:13       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28  5:56         ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28 19:08           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28  5:43       ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28 17:00         ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-28 18:52           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28 20:26             ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-28 21:33               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28 21:57                 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-28 23:17                   ` Edgecombe, Rick P [this message]
2025-08-29  6:08                   ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28 22:06                 ` Ira Weiny
2025-08-28 23:17                   ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-29  0:35                     ` Ira Weiny
2025-08-29  6:06                 ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28 21:44             ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-29  2:42             ` Binbin Wu
2025-08-29  2:31           ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-29  6:33             ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28 15:30       ` Ira Weiny
2025-08-28 15:28     ` Ira Weiny
2025-08-27  0:05 ` [RFC PATCH 10/12] KVM: TDX: Assert that slots_lock is held when nr_premapped is accessed Sean Christopherson
2025-08-27  0:05 ` [RFC PATCH 11/12] KVM: TDX: Track nr_premapped as an "unsigned long", not an "atomic64_t" Sean Christopherson
2025-08-27  9:12   ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-27  0:05 ` [RFC PATCH 12/12] KVM: TDX: Rename nr_premapped to nr_pending_tdh_mem_page_adds Sean Christopherson
2025-08-27  9:22   ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28 15:23   ` Ira Weiny
2025-08-27  9:48 ` [RFC PATCH 00/12] KVM: x86/mmu: TDX post-populate cleanups Yan Zhao
2025-08-28 19:01 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28 23:19   ` Sean Christopherson

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