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From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@redhat.com>,
	Seiji Aguchi <saguchi@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] tracing: make signal tracepoints more useful
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 14:52:57 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1326829977.17534.65.camel@gandalf.stny.rr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120117100222.GH10397@elte.hu>

On Tue, 2012-01-17 at 11:02 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>  
> > The kernel does this all the time. We have syscalls that may 
> > extend the data structure. [...]
> 
> That is not true *AT ALL* in such an unqualified manner. Steve, 
> stop being stupid.

OK, Ingo I think we had a little miscommunication here.

I forgot what I originally wrote, and you cut off too much in your
reply. What I originally said:


"The kernel does this all the time. We have syscalls that may extend the
data structure. This is a common practice. Any app that depends on a
data structure remaining the same size for no good reason is broken by
design."

If you took the "Any app that depends on a data structure remaining the
same size for no good reason is broken by design" was suppose to mean,
any app that depends on syscall data structures is broken by design, I
would agree, that statement is stupid. I didn't write that well, as my
thought process switched back to reading tracepoints and wasn't meant to
be about syscalls there. I didn't articulate that properly.

As you can tell, I was a little upset at being called stupid this
morning. If you took that statement to mean about syscalls, I understand
your calling me stupid, and I apologize for being a bit snippy. I like
to keep LKML discussions technical and not something for name calling.

-- Steve



  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-01-17 19:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-10 17:45 [PATCH 0/2] " Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-10 17:45 ` [PATCH 1/2] tracing: let trace_signal_generate() report more info, kill overflow_fail/lose_info Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-10 17:45 ` [PATCH 2/2] tracing: send_sigqueue() needs trace_signal_generate() too Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-10 18:59 ` [PATCH 0/2] tracing: make signal tracepoints more useful Steven Rostedt
2012-01-10 21:09 ` Seiji Aguchi
2012-01-13 18:20 ` [GIT PULL] " Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-15 18:24   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-16  7:45     ` Ingo Molnar
2012-01-16 12:31       ` Steven Rostedt
2012-01-16 12:53         ` Ingo Molnar
2012-01-16 15:10           ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-17 18:50             ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-18  9:39               ` Ingo Molnar
2012-01-16 15:52           ` Steven Rostedt
2012-01-17 10:02             ` Ingo Molnar
2012-01-17 12:03               ` Steven Rostedt
2012-01-17 12:40                 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-01-17 14:04                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-18 11:59                     ` Ingo Molnar
2012-01-17 14:37                   ` Steven Rostedt
2012-01-17 14:55                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-20 18:01                     ` Jason Baron
2012-01-17 19:52               ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2012-01-16 15:03       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-16 15:42         ` Seiji Aguchi
2012-01-16 15:58         ` Steven Rostedt
2012-01-26 10:10   ` Ingo Molnar

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