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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@redhat.com>,
	Seiji Aguchi <saguchi@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] tracing: make signal tracepoints more useful
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 13:53:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120116125329.GB31667@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1326717070.7642.144.camel@gandalf.stny.rr.com>


* Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:

> On Mon, 2012-01-16 at 08:45 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> 
> > Looks good to me at a first (quick) sight, except this bit 
> > which changes the ABI:
> > 
> > > > 	-       TP_printk("sig=%d errno=%d code=%d comm=%s pid=%d",
> > > > 	+       TP_printk("sig=%d errno=%d code=%d comm=%s pid=%d grp=%d res=%d",
> > 
> > That's not how we change tracepoints generally - we add a new 
> > one and eventually phase out the old one. Which apps/tools rely 
> > on the old tracepoint? If it's exactly zero apps then we might 
> > be able to change it, but this needs to be investigated.
> 
> But this tracepoint wasn't changed, it was added on to. 
> There's a difference. Any tool that uses this (including 
> something like powertop) should be able to handle it. [...]

That's mostly true in theory - the question is, is it true in 
practice?

Say if an app relies on the smaller data structure, it sure 
might get surprised by the kernel writing a wider record ...

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2012-01-16 12:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-10 17:45 [PATCH 0/2] " Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-10 17:45 ` [PATCH 1/2] tracing: let trace_signal_generate() report more info, kill overflow_fail/lose_info Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-10 17:45 ` [PATCH 2/2] tracing: send_sigqueue() needs trace_signal_generate() too Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-10 18:59 ` [PATCH 0/2] tracing: make signal tracepoints more useful Steven Rostedt
2012-01-10 21:09 ` Seiji Aguchi
2012-01-13 18:20 ` [GIT PULL] " Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-15 18:24   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-16  7:45     ` Ingo Molnar
2012-01-16 12:31       ` Steven Rostedt
2012-01-16 12:53         ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2012-01-16 15:10           ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-17 18:50             ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-18  9:39               ` Ingo Molnar
2012-01-16 15:52           ` Steven Rostedt
2012-01-17 10:02             ` Ingo Molnar
2012-01-17 12:03               ` Steven Rostedt
2012-01-17 12:40                 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-01-17 14:04                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-18 11:59                     ` Ingo Molnar
2012-01-17 14:37                   ` Steven Rostedt
2012-01-17 14:55                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-20 18:01                     ` Jason Baron
2012-01-17 19:52               ` Steven Rostedt
2012-01-16 15:03       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-16 15:42         ` Seiji Aguchi
2012-01-16 15:58         ` Steven Rostedt
2012-01-26 10:10   ` Ingo Molnar

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