From: Scott Wood <scottwood@freescale.com>
To: "gregkh@linuxfoundation.org" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: Christoffer Dall <christoffer.dall@linaro.org>,
Yoder Stuart-B08248 <B08248@freescale.com>,
Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
Kim Phillips <kim.phillips@linaro.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"a.motakis@virtualopensystems.com"
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Wood Scott-B07421 <B07421@freescale.com>,
Sethi Varun-B16395 <B16395@freescale.com>,
Bhushan Bharat-R65777 <R65777@freescale.com>,
"peter.maydell@linaro.org" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
"santosh.shukla@linaro.org" <santosh.shukla@linaro.org>,
"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: RFC: (re-)binding the VFIO platform driver to a platform device
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2013 13:33:27 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1380825207.12932.151.camel@snotra.buserror.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131002234009.GA27714@kroah.com>
On Wed, 2013-10-02 at 16:40 -0700, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 04:35:15PM -0500, Scott Wood wrote:
> > On Wed, 2013-10-02 at 14:16 -0700, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org wrote:
> > > On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 04:08:41PM -0500, Scott Wood wrote:
> > > > I don't see any equivalent functionality to PCI_ANY_ID for platform
> > > > devices.
> > >
> > > Nor should it. If you are wanting to bind platform devices to different
> > > things based on "ids" or "strings" or something else, then you had
> > > better not be using a platform device because that is not what you have
> > > anymore.
> >
> > I don't see how anything could be considered a platform device under
> > your definition.
>
> Devices that you just "know" are at a specific memory location ahead of
> time.
>
> > Even before all the device tree stuff came along,
> > platform devices were still bound based on strings.
>
> Not all of them, there are lots that are not, look at ISA devices on a
> PC platform for one example (your pc speaker, keyboard controller,
> etc.)
Using platform devices to let board files provide this information to
driver files was a big improvement over hacking up the drivers directly
to know about all sorts of different boards/SoCs. Once you split that
knowledge into a different place you need a way of matching the two.
BTW, this is done with the pc speaker as far as I can tell --
arch/x86/kernel/pcspeaker.c registers a device using the string
"pcspkr" (as do some non-PC platforms).
> > And even if we did still have a separate OF platform bus, my point about
> > there not being a wildcard match applies to of_device_id as well. It
> > certainly is not the case that "this is already there, and has been for
> > years with no problems".
>
> That's an OF problem then, feel free to fix it there, but not in the
> driver core with a crazy "ignore this bus type string" hack :)
Even if we did this for OF and ACPI, you'd still have a problem if you
want to use VFIO with a platform device that only has plain old
platform data; thus, the platform bus (not driver core) seems to be the
appropriate place for a wildcard match if we end up needing it. It may
be moot though, since for platform devices we may want explicit kernel
support for a device even with vfio, in order to reset/quiesce it
between users.
What it looks like we do still want from the driver core is the ability
for a driver to say that it should not be bound to a device except via
explicit sysfs bind, and the ability for a user to say that a device
should not be bound to a driver except via explicit sysfs bind. This is
a separate issue from making driver_match_device() happy (in some
earlier e-mails in the thread these two issues were not properly
separated).
-Scott
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-10-03 18:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-10-01 18:38 Kim Phillips
2013-10-01 19:15 ` Scott Wood
2013-10-01 19:17 ` Scott Wood
2013-10-01 22:01 ` Kim Phillips
2013-10-01 21:59 ` Kim Phillips
2013-10-01 22:44 ` Scott Wood
2013-10-01 20:00 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-10-01 22:02 ` Kim Phillips
2013-10-02 1:53 ` Christoffer Dall
2013-10-02 2:35 ` Alex Williamson
2013-10-02 15:14 ` Christoffer Dall
2013-10-02 15:29 ` Alex Williamson
2013-10-02 18:25 ` Yoder Stuart-B08248
2013-10-02 18:32 ` Scott Wood
2013-10-02 18:43 ` Christoffer Dall
2013-10-02 20:04 ` Kim Phillips
2013-10-02 20:13 ` Christoffer Dall
2013-10-02 20:19 ` Scott Wood
2013-10-02 20:14 ` Scott Wood
2013-10-02 20:27 ` Christoffer Dall
2013-10-02 20:39 ` gregkh
2013-10-02 20:44 ` Christoffer Dall
2013-10-02 20:37 ` gregkh
2013-10-02 20:42 ` Christoffer Dall
2013-10-02 21:08 ` Scott Wood
2013-10-02 21:16 ` gregkh
2013-10-02 21:35 ` Scott Wood
2013-10-02 23:40 ` gregkh
2013-10-03 18:33 ` Scott Wood [this message]
2013-10-03 18:54 ` gregkh
2013-10-03 19:11 ` Scott Wood
2013-10-03 20:32 ` gregkh
2013-10-09 19:02 ` Yoder Stuart-B08248
2013-10-09 19:16 ` gregkh
2013-10-09 19:49 ` Scott Wood
2013-10-09 19:21 ` Scott Wood
2013-10-09 19:44 ` Yoder Stuart-B08248
2013-10-09 20:03 ` Scott Wood
2013-10-10 3:05 ` Kim Phillips
2013-10-10 8:01 ` Bhushan Bharat-R65777
2013-10-10 15:27 ` Scott Wood
2013-10-11 6:27 ` [PATCH 1/4] driver core: Add new device_driver flag to allow binding via sysfs only Kim Phillips
2013-10-11 6:27 ` [PATCH 2/4] driver core: platform: allow platform drivers to bind to any device Kim Phillips
2013-10-11 6:27 ` [PATCH 3/4] VFIO: pci: amend vfio-pci for explicit binding via sysfs only Kim Phillips
2013-10-11 20:43 ` Scott Wood
2013-10-11 23:17 ` Kim Phillips
2013-10-14 13:01 ` Yoder Stuart-B08248
2013-10-14 17:13 ` Scott Wood
2013-10-24 11:32 ` Bhushan Bharat-R65777
2013-10-28 17:47 ` Alex Williamson
2013-10-28 18:00 ` Scott Wood
2013-10-28 18:09 ` Scott Wood
2013-10-29 3:38 ` Bhushan Bharat-R65777
2013-10-29 3:40 ` Scott Wood
2013-10-29 3:52 ` Bhushan Bharat-R65777
2013-10-29 4:29 ` Scott Wood
2013-10-29 4:31 ` Bhushan Bharat-R65777
2013-10-29 4:35 ` Scott Wood
2013-10-29 4:45 ` Bhushan Bharat-R65777
2013-10-29 4:54 ` Scott Wood
2013-10-29 6:39 ` Bhushan Bharat-R65777
2013-10-11 6:27 ` [PATCH] VFIO: platform: allow the driver to bind to any device explicitly via sysfs Kim Phillips
2013-10-10 7:45 ` RFC: (re-)binding the VFIO platform driver to a platform device Bhushan Bharat-R65777
2013-10-10 13:43 ` Yoder Stuart-B08248
2013-10-10 15:23 ` Scott Wood
2013-10-10 15:25 ` Bhushan Bharat-R65777
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