From: Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>
To: Daniel Kiper <daniel.kiper@oracle.com>
Cc: "Woodhouse, David" <david.woodhouse@intel.com>,
Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>,
Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
"Jan Beulich" <JBeulich@suse.com>,
"ross.philipson@citrix.com" <ross.philipson@citrix.com>,
"stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com"
<stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
"grub-devel@gnu.org" <grub-devel@gnu.org>,
"Maliszewski, Richard L" <richard.l.maliszewski@intel.com>,
"xen-devel@lists.xen.org" <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
"boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com" <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
Peter Jones <pjones@redhat.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"keir@xen.org" <keir@xen.org>
Subject: Re: EFI and multiboot2 devlopment work for Xen
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 17:08:03 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1382458083.18283.34.camel@hastur.hellion.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131022160146.GH3626@debian70-amd64.local.net-space.pl>
On Tue, 2013-10-22 at 18:01 +0200, Daniel Kiper wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 03:42:42PM +0000, Woodhouse, David wrote:
> > On Tue, 2013-10-22 at 16:32 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > >
> > > There are two problems with this:
> > >
> > > 1) The kernel will only boot if it's signed with a key in db, not a key
> > > in MOK.
> > > 2) grub will read the kernel, but the kernel will have to read the
> > > initramfs using EFI calls. That means your initramfs must be on a FAT
> > > partition.
> > >
> > > If you're happy with those limitations then just use the chainloader
> > > command. If you're not, use the linuxefi command.
> >
> > Well, we're talking about booting the Xen hypervisor aren't we?
> >
> > So yes, there are reasons the Linux kernel uses the 'boot stub' the way
> > it does, but I'm not sure we advocate that Xen should emulate that in
> > all its 'glory'?
>
> Right, I think that sensible mixture of multiboot2 protocol (it is needed
> to pass at least modules list to Xen; IIRC, linuxefi uses Linux Boot protocol
> for it) with extension proposed by Vladimir and something similar to linuxefi
> command will solve our problem (I proposed it in my first email). Users which
> do not need SB may use upstream GRUB2 and others could use
> 'multiboot2efi extension'.
Are you (going to be) in Edinburgh? Matthew was just explaining a bunch
of this stuff to me, it might be useful for you to get it from the
horses mouth instead of laundered through my brain (which is a bit
addled afterwards ;-)).
Ian.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-10-22 16:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-10-21 12:57 Daniel Kiper
2013-10-21 13:36 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-21 14:23 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-21 14:37 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-21 18:46 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 7:16 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-21 18:39 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 7:15 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-21 13:54 ` Peter Jones
2013-10-21 18:57 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 9:26 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 9:31 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 9:45 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 9:59 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 13:42 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 13:53 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 14:09 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 14:24 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 14:51 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 14:59 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 15:35 ` Peter Jones
2013-10-22 15:39 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 16:31 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 15:22 ` [Xen-devel] " Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 16:26 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-23 8:32 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-23 13:13 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-23 14:07 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-23 17:13 ` Andrey Borzenkov
2013-10-23 16:17 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-23 16:14 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-23 17:01 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-24 6:53 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 14:10 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 14:18 ` Woodhouse, David
2013-10-22 14:57 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 15:21 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 16:24 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 16:27 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 15:23 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 14:43 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 15:25 ` Woodhouse, David
2013-10-22 15:32 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-10-22 15:42 ` Woodhouse, David
2013-10-22 16:01 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 16:08 ` Ian Campbell [this message]
2013-10-22 16:14 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 16:25 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 16:31 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 16:38 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 16:24 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 16:36 ` Maliszewski, Richard L
2013-10-22 16:51 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 17:09 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 17:21 ` Maliszewski, Richard L
2013-10-23 7:53 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 16:35 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-23 6:49 ` Michael Chang
2013-10-23 6:51 ` Michael Chang
2013-10-23 6:56 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-21 20:53 ` Seth Goldberg
2013-10-21 21:27 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-21 21:27 ` Seth Goldberg
2013-10-21 21:16 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 8:54 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-23 7:05 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-23 8:28 ` Seth Goldberg
2013-10-23 10:43 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-28 16:26 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-28 18:01 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-29 8:28 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-30 11:19 ` Is: Wrap-up Was: " Daniel Kiper
2013-10-30 11:38 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-11-04 20:41 ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-11-05 19:15 ` Leif Lindholm
2013-10-28 18:42 ` Seth Goldberg
2013-10-22 17:12 ` Andrey Borzenkov
2013-10-22 17:20 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-23 7:43 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-23 8:44 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
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