mirror of https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>
To: Daniel Kiper <daniel.kiper@oracle.com>
Cc: "Woodhouse, David" <david.woodhouse@intel.com>,
	Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	"Jan Beulich" <JBeulich@suse.com>,
	"ross.philipson@citrix.com" <ross.philipson@citrix.com>,
	"stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com"
	<stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
	"grub-devel@gnu.org" <grub-devel@gnu.org>,
	"Maliszewski, Richard L" <richard.l.maliszewski@intel.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xen.org" <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
	"boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com" <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
	Peter Jones <pjones@redhat.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"keir@xen.org" <keir@xen.org>
Subject: Re: EFI and multiboot2 devlopment work for Xen
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 17:08:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1382458083.18283.34.camel@hastur.hellion.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131022160146.GH3626@debian70-amd64.local.net-space.pl>

On Tue, 2013-10-22 at 18:01 +0200, Daniel Kiper wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 03:42:42PM +0000, Woodhouse, David wrote:
> > On Tue, 2013-10-22 at 16:32 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > >
> > > There are two problems with this:
> > >
> > > 1) The kernel will only boot if it's signed with a key in db, not a key
> > > in MOK.
> > > 2) grub will read the kernel, but the kernel will have to read the
> > > initramfs using EFI calls. That means your initramfs must be on a FAT
> > > partition.
> > >
> > > If you're happy with those limitations then just use the chainloader
> > > command. If you're not, use the linuxefi command.
> >
> > Well, we're talking about booting the Xen hypervisor aren't we?
> >
> > So yes, there are reasons the Linux kernel uses the 'boot stub' the way
> > it does, but I'm not sure we advocate that Xen should emulate that in
> > all its 'glory'?
> 
> Right, I think that sensible mixture of multiboot2 protocol (it is needed
> to pass at least modules list to Xen; IIRC, linuxefi uses Linux Boot protocol
> for it) with extension proposed by Vladimir and something similar to linuxefi
> command will solve our problem (I proposed it in my first email). Users which
> do not need SB may use upstream GRUB2 and others could use
> 'multiboot2efi extension'.

Are you (going to be) in Edinburgh? Matthew was just explaining a bunch
of this stuff to me, it might be useful for you to get it from the
horses mouth instead of laundered through my brain (which is a bit
addled afterwards ;-)).

Ian.


  reply	other threads:[~2013-10-22 16:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-21 12:57 Daniel Kiper
2013-10-21 13:36 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-21 14:23   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-21 14:37     ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-21 18:46       ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22  7:16         ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-21 18:39   ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22  7:15     ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-21 13:54 ` Peter Jones
2013-10-21 18:57   ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22  9:26     ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22  9:31       ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22  9:45         ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22  9:59           ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 13:42             ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 13:53               ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 14:09                 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 14:24                   ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 14:51                     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 14:59                       ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 15:35                       ` Peter Jones
2013-10-22 15:39                       ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 16:31                         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 15:22                     ` [Xen-devel] " Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 16:26                       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-23  8:32                         ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-23 13:13                           ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-23 14:07                             ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-23 17:13                               ` Andrey Borzenkov
2013-10-23 16:17                             ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-23 16:14                           ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-23 17:01                             ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-24  6:53                               ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 14:10                 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 14:18                 ` Woodhouse, David
2013-10-22 14:57                   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 15:21                     ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 16:24                       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 16:27                         ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 15:23                   ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 14:43               ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 15:25                 ` Woodhouse, David
2013-10-22 15:32                   ` Matthew Garrett
2013-10-22 15:42                     ` Woodhouse, David
2013-10-22 16:01                       ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 16:08                         ` Ian Campbell [this message]
2013-10-22 16:14                           ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 16:25                             ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 16:31                               ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 16:38                             ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 16:24                         ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 16:36                           ` Maliszewski, Richard L
2013-10-22 16:51                             ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 17:09                               ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 17:21                               ` Maliszewski, Richard L
2013-10-23  7:53                                 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 16:35                   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-23  6:49                     ` Michael Chang
2013-10-23  6:51                       ` Michael Chang
2013-10-23  6:56               ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-21 20:53 ` Seth Goldberg
2013-10-21 21:27   ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-21 21:27     ` Seth Goldberg
2013-10-21 21:16 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22  8:54   ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-23  7:05     ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-23  8:28       ` Seth Goldberg
2013-10-23 10:43       ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-28 16:26     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-28 18:01       ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-29  8:28         ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-30 11:19           ` Is: Wrap-up Was: " Daniel Kiper
2013-10-30 11:38             ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-11-04 20:41             ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-11-05 19:15               ` Leif Lindholm
2013-10-28 18:42       ` Seth Goldberg
2013-10-22 17:12   ` Andrey Borzenkov
2013-10-22 17:20     ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-23  7:43   ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-23  8:44     ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=1382458083.18283.34.camel@hastur.hellion.org.uk \
    --to=ian.campbell@citrix.com \
    --cc=JBeulich@suse.com \
    --cc=boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com \
    --cc=daniel.kiper@oracle.com \
    --cc=david.woodhouse@intel.com \
    --cc=grub-devel@gnu.org \
    --cc=keir@xen.org \
    --cc=konrad.wilk@oracle.com \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=mjg59@srcf.ucam.org \
    --cc=pjones@redhat.com \
    --cc=richard.l.maliszewski@intel.com \
    --cc=ross.philipson@citrix.com \
    --cc=stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com \
    --cc=xen-devel@lists.xen.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox

Powered by JetHome