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From: Daniel Kiper <daniel.kiper@oracle.com>
To: "Woodhouse, David" <david.woodhouse@intel.com>
Cc: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>,
	Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>,
	"ross.philipson@citrix.com" <ross.philipson@citrix.com>,
	"stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com"
	<stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
	"grub-devel@gnu.org" <grub-devel@gnu.org>,
	"Maliszewski, Richard L" <richard.l.maliszewski@intel.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xen.org" <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
	"boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com" <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
	Peter Jones <pjones@redhat.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"keir@xen.org" <keir@xen.org>
Subject: Re: EFI and multiboot2 devlopment work for Xen
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 18:01:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131022160146.GH3626@debian70-amd64.local.net-space.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1382456560.8512.24.camel@shinybook.infradead.org>

On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 03:42:42PM +0000, Woodhouse, David wrote:
> On Tue, 2013-10-22 at 16:32 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> >
> > There are two problems with this:
> >
> > 1) The kernel will only boot if it's signed with a key in db, not a key
> > in MOK.
> > 2) grub will read the kernel, but the kernel will have to read the
> > initramfs using EFI calls. That means your initramfs must be on a FAT
> > partition.
> >
> > If you're happy with those limitations then just use the chainloader
> > command. If you're not, use the linuxefi command.
>
> Well, we're talking about booting the Xen hypervisor aren't we?
>
> So yes, there are reasons the Linux kernel uses the 'boot stub' the way
> it does, but I'm not sure we advocate that Xen should emulate that in
> all its 'glory'?

Right, I think that sensible mixture of multiboot2 protocol (it is needed
to pass at least modules list to Xen; IIRC, linuxefi uses Linux Boot protocol
for it) with extension proposed by Vladimir and something similar to linuxefi
command will solve our problem (I proposed it in my first email). Users which
do not need SB may use upstream GRUB2 and others could use
'multiboot2efi extension'.

Daniel

  reply	other threads:[~2013-10-22 16:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-21 12:57 Daniel Kiper
2013-10-21 13:36 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-21 14:23   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-21 14:37     ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-21 18:46       ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22  7:16         ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-21 18:39   ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22  7:15     ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-21 13:54 ` Peter Jones
2013-10-21 18:57   ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22  9:26     ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22  9:31       ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22  9:45         ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22  9:59           ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 13:42             ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 13:53               ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 14:09                 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 14:24                   ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 14:51                     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 14:59                       ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 15:35                       ` Peter Jones
2013-10-22 15:39                       ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 16:31                         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 15:22                     ` [Xen-devel] " Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 16:26                       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-23  8:32                         ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-23 13:13                           ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-23 14:07                             ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-23 17:13                               ` Andrey Borzenkov
2013-10-23 16:17                             ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-23 16:14                           ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-23 17:01                             ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-24  6:53                               ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 14:10                 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 14:18                 ` Woodhouse, David
2013-10-22 14:57                   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 15:21                     ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 16:24                       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 16:27                         ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 15:23                   ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 14:43               ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 15:25                 ` Woodhouse, David
2013-10-22 15:32                   ` Matthew Garrett
2013-10-22 15:42                     ` Woodhouse, David
2013-10-22 16:01                       ` Daniel Kiper [this message]
2013-10-22 16:08                         ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 16:14                           ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 16:25                             ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 16:31                               ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 16:38                             ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 16:24                         ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 16:36                           ` Maliszewski, Richard L
2013-10-22 16:51                             ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 17:09                               ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 17:21                               ` Maliszewski, Richard L
2013-10-23  7:53                                 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 16:35                   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-23  6:49                     ` Michael Chang
2013-10-23  6:51                       ` Michael Chang
2013-10-23  6:56               ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-21 20:53 ` Seth Goldberg
2013-10-21 21:27   ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-21 21:27     ` Seth Goldberg
2013-10-21 21:16 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22  8:54   ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-23  7:05     ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-23  8:28       ` Seth Goldberg
2013-10-23 10:43       ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-28 16:26     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-28 18:01       ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-29  8:28         ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-30 11:19           ` Is: Wrap-up Was: " Daniel Kiper
2013-10-30 11:38             ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-11-04 20:41             ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-11-05 19:15               ` Leif Lindholm
2013-10-28 18:42       ` Seth Goldberg
2013-10-22 17:12   ` Andrey Borzenkov
2013-10-22 17:20     ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-23  7:43   ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-23  8:44     ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko

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